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Large World- 45MB/48MB
WA/AMB/LN- Free Store items

[b]Moon Base Charlie II[/b]
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Large World- 2048x2048
Number of Lots: 97 =Comm: 55/Res: 42
[b]Tech:[/b] WA/Amb/LN needed. Plus EV Pack free from EA- linked below.
(Populated= 14 Lots/28 Sims)


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Happy Simming,
Calimero ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4100820.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4100820.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4100928.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4100928.page GMT

There was also a momentary lag when my Sim stepped into that room. Not sure what's going on. It's getting close to closing time and my sim hasn't been in there very long so I will have to come back another sim day and test that club.

I love what you did with the subways. The moon world looks as awesome as I remembered it and THEN some! So far I'm in my old dome home just making sure it still works. Apparently it does. I can still garden in there.

Update on Strobe Light...I found one and set it to turn off for the whole lot and that ended the problem for me personally. By personally I mean it was hurting my vision but may not bother someone else. So you can leave it in since the end user Can turn it off annd it's not a glitch. I continue toget a periodic lag of a second or two as I'm on that lot. In case you're wondering I'm still with the same sim since I posted this but I had paused to walk my dog. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4101436.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4101436.page GMT
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Anyway I think there was something on the club lot causing the freezing because it diminished then so far has disappeared off that lot. This all so far has transpired half a sim day into this world. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4101793.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4101793.page GMT
I'll check out the subway station side with the strobe light again but I didn't have any freezing while in the club last time I was there.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102024.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102024.page GMT
My sim is wearing a cc blush, package content, that has not given me any trouble in Bridgeport or at any other time in the game, so I'll venture to say it's not the cc but just in case I'm going to exit and do a fresh reload with no cc at all in any of my files. My only other CC is contact lenses, and two hairs based off the store hair. All CC was tested okay prior but just in case...I'm pitching it.

I was able to recreate the route fail DD was talking about. Oddly enough my sim could walk onto that science lot from the food dome but only en route to the Subway Station club.

Edit to add I do not use mods or anything other than the blush and two hairs and cc and only one sim is wearing the blush, currently and another in town has the hair and contact lenses.

Sorry DD I was unclear, I was only in the diner to eat. I understand you meant the food dome. I got the route fail even without trying to collect bugs. Sim simply can't go from dome to sci center. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102072.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102072.page GMT

Sorry it took me so long to get back here. Thanks for finding two of the problems. I knew you all could help.

Now, it see if I can fix them. ...on hold... ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102260.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102260.page GMT
I have to go pick up my kid from school after I finish setting up. When I resume testing I'll be using a different house under a dome and a different sim. I'll be testing the remaining public areas that I hadn't gotten to yet and if I get a chance tonight I'll try to travel. I can't believe how little I've accomplished in a whole day here but with the dog and cats and coffee disaster and phone calls my day wasn't as uninterrupted as I could have hoped for. I also didn't have a full library of test sims to stick in there but I do now so that should make things go faster from here on out. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102333.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102333.page GMT
I have to go pick up my kid from school after I finish setting up. When I resume testing I'll be using a different house under a dome and a different sim. I'll be testing the remaining public areas that I hadn't gotten to yet and if I get a chance tonight I'll try to travel. I can't believe how little I've accomplished in a whole day here but with the dog and cats and coffee disaster and phone calls my day wasn't as uninterrupted as I could have hoped for. I also didn't have a full library of test sims to stick in there but I do now so that should make things go faster from here on out. [/quote]

Ew... terrible. I only played it for a few Sim days last night- 3 times.

I really doubt it's your CC.
I wonder what is wrong with the club? Strange. I'm removing the Station and lights and will try it again.
Gonna redo the Dome at the Science Center. I didn't change it when switching to the new domes like I did the rest.

Thanks ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102448.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102448.page GMT
Yes, it's in testing.



[quote=Calimero2000]It looks brilliant, I might download it later.

Happy Simming,
Calimero [/quote]

Hi, Calimero

Yeah, not just yet. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102456.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4102456.page GMT and run some spelling lessons with my daughter.

Well I need DD to test the club too but I really can't risk it being my CC so I am going to do a clean slate test. I just hope nothing corrupted beyond the Documents/The Sims 3 folder level when I had to shut down due to the hang. I guess we'll find out in a minute. I'll leave this page open so I can report as I play. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4103550.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4103550.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4103734.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4103734.page GMT
Hi, Pary
I did take it down because of the freeze. I hope to have the next test version tonight. I want to run it a little first. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4103994.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4103994.page GMT
PS I feel terrible if my CC was the cause and borked up the testing. So sorry. I should never test with CC in. I think the last patch maybe rendered the blush messy? Or it could have just been a botched installation. I won't know unless I try to put the CC back in and test it with that in again. No sense doing that for your purposes though. That would just be so I know if my CC is bad. It was a Sarah Michelle Gellar face mask blush by Wil Stefan of MTS for his SMG sim that I was using on my updated Buffy Summers Sim. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104007.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104007.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104055.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104055.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104092.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104092.page GMT [/quote]Truly, indeed. I had left it all in because it was all running fine for many sim hours in Winter Wonderland and Bridgeport. Even after the patch in those worlds. But you are right and I have a totally brand new The Sims 3 folder and I only migrated over a library and Saved Sims folder that was purged of sims wearing CC. It was just two sims, thankfully. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104113.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104113.page GMT [/quote]

No, I still don't think it's the CC. I have a few pauses, too. Nothing major but I've redone the fishing Dome and the Club.
I haven't noticed any pauses this time but I also didn't see any insects spawning in the new domes. This is not good... I did add pigeons so now I'm going to remove them and hope I get the insects back.

*and the Men's urinal at the Park was tossing a path error.

*Oh, and I didn't use many sinks- water is very limited.

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My prior test sim was in my Dome house that I made for you. My current one resides at Blue Test house. Other differences are a vehicle--I had a Renault Twizzy before and now I have a Fast Lane formula race car--the fastest most expensive one.

Yet another difference this time around--no vampires in the club at all. Last time there was a bouncer who was a vamp. So far I have run across only ONE patron in two visits to the club.

I can't recall what the patch was supposed to do but wasn't it supposed to stop patrons from woohooing bouncers in hot tubs? I wish I could remember. Anyway that is exactly what my sim was doing when I had the big freeze last time that ended my session. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104340.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4104340.page GMT I had her at the club today but not on an outing she was hanging with a guy she met at the club today and no pauses or jumping while they chatted in the hot tub(which is all they did on the outing)

This was before changing the doors on the outside entry ways. I think it was confusing the visitors because they were blocked from entering... With the arches they walk right inside.

I saw a Vampire today- non at the club but the one... well, the outing was with her Vampire boss. If it means anything. I haven't seen any Sims go into the Medieval Club.

I also played three families today in different houses. Fire fighter, ghost hunter, cook- but only for a Sim day.
I am worried about my insects no spawning.

I didn't patch.
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I also expanded the Gym- there's a Martial Arts section now.

*Oh, I
~ re-sculpted the Food Dome and rebuilt the whole lot.
~ removed the Station from the Station Club and removed the strobe lights.
~ checked out all the routing paint... and stuff.

**I also have the wrong doors on the bathrooms at the new Food Dome.
so, pink is men and blue is female.
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I'm glad you put a martial arts section in the gym, Rflong. One of the sims I'm using in MBC seems to regularly have the opportunity come up to learn the skill for his job. I know I need to also travel from MBC for test purposes but sure don't travel much outside of testing anymore.

I was also going to ask you how does one set the type of music that is going to play on one of those wall speakers? When I went to the side with the strobe it was playing classical music, which just didn't gel with the surroundings. I couldn't figure out how you set the genre that will play, so how is it done? You might have changed that in this version but I'ld still like to know how to do it. I miss the way the TS2 guides used to spell things like that out. Sometimes I feel so darn dense with the hit and miss method ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4105109.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4105109.page GMT
I think you just click on it, like the effects machine- maybe?

~Oh, my Sim did make out with the Bartender last night (in the hot tub). Also stole their clothes!
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ETA: You want to be careful where you put those speakers, I stuck some in the Chapel I made and it became the neighborhood gym. Every time I would send a Sim to visit there were 5 or 6 others working out on the dance floor. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4105314.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4105314.page GMT

I haven't tried stealing clothes yet. I didn't even know it could be done until someon on MTS made the towel available for download. There is definitely a learning curve where this game is concerned.

Okay, off to play in space for a while.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4105362.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4105362.page GMT

ETA: You want to be careful where you put those speakers, I stuck some in the Chapel I made and it became the neighborhood gym. Every time I would send a Sim to visit there were 5 or 6 others working out on the dance floor. [/quote]

Thank you, DM. And for the Warning. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4105457.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4105457.page GMT
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(or 15 minutes) ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106109.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106109.page GMT
I also had tried changing the music in the bar to no avail. I have never seen any sims in the dark vampire lounge side of the club but my active sim routed there no problem so I'm not sure why it has been empty. I have a fully loaded town and see sims in all public places that I have been to so far. For a hot spot the bars can sure be dead. I know in Bridgeport the one bar that is always positively packed is the one that looks like a sports bar. I forget the name--maybe it is Waylons. Maybe the bar needs more toys for grownups in it to attract the sims.

I do keep getting wishes/wants rolling in that say my sim wants to visit 4 hotspots or drink at several bars and there's only one bar so I can't do that one. I think that's kind of crazy--we are already at a heavy saturation point on the kinds of "required" public buildings and computers aren't going to take any more. It's to the point all the worlds will have to be done on the largest map size to accomodate all the wishes and opportunity rolls. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106121.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106121.page GMT It's 1 skill level and then 4 skill level wish.
Level 1 promotion, level 5 promotion wish.
~seems like.

It's harder to make a Simple world when we do want all the bells and whistles yet we can only have a salon on a salon and consignment on it's own lot. Maybe a Room marker like Tomb markers is what EA needs for Community lots.





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~See if you can "see" the surprise I added.
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Oops just checked and it's not just beetles--loads of flying insects, too. I believe earlier in that same park were pigeons but I didn't see them there at night. There was a woman playing with the portable knubb set backwards when I went there in the morning and she was still there late at night after I left the club. At first I feared she was stuck but she left after my drunken sim spoke babbling insanity at her.

Okay latest version is downloaded and installed. To clarify, I remembered to delete world cache files pertaining to the previous version. No cc installed. Let the games begin! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106357.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106357.page GMT
I do like those little pigeons. They're so cute. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106442.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106442.page GMT
Oh and your hair and face mask may be a problem as i saw a thread at modthesims that said face masks, some skins, hairs based off of EA hairs, window, doors, and build mode stuff made off EA stuff is now conflicting because EA diddled with the programming again to make all their stuff work right in NL and with new animations including all the CAS stuff, so if you content uses EA's info, meshes what ever, it will now have conflicting or scrambled programming. Freeze like you descibed was described as that is the game trying to figure out how to use the same stuff it knew how to use before they changed the info, so it just goes into either minute pauses or hard freezes. As with all things EA, the games "brain" just gets obsessed with trying to solve the mystery of the instructions because technically it somewhat recognizes the CC that is based off of EA's stuff, it's just confused by the programming it no longer knows. From the sounds of things a lot of stuff that is not mods but usually safe CC, made off EA stuff is not longer safe. Unfortunately I did not stay in the thread long enough to really know exactly what is not good, but they had doors and windows (mostly from TSR) as bad, face masks, hairs that had been altered like hat removal or that from Sims 2 or EA for both genders or all ages and skin defaults. Sliders also were listed and the skin mod that allows us to have more skin types.... I can't think what else... Most of that was with the first patch, I have no idea as far as this new one.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106493.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106493.page GMT
So, EA really does still love it's modders and it shows.


~I shouldn't say that. It's to be expected that Content changes as the game changes. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106606.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106606.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106622.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106622.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106660.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106660.page GMT
Well thank goodnes it was not anything in RF's world she needs to hunt down and fix, then. But I am heartbroken as I spent so much time and effort per day to get my new Buffy sim just right and she needs Will Stefan's face mask blush. I was part of the Buffy Sunnydale crew on MTS. It was an ongoing project to recreate characters and sets from the Buffy the Vampire Slayer show and I had promised those people an update to my Buffy for ages once we got new facial sliders and I could refine her. This was a very long term work in process and I FINALLY got her JUST RIGHT...and now... It's sort of fitting in with the run of luck my family is having and today in particular. Tonight my daughter broke her very favorite Christmas ornament. She never even got to see it on the tree--we had bought it at the beach this summer. My husband came home dispirited about work. It was a stinky evening. Still, compared to 80 percent of the world, we live like charmed beings. Stuff happens, vent, move on and deal.

I wouldn't have minded about the face mask being borked now if I hadn't just succeeded in getting that sim finished using it. Will has not posted new work in ages and I doubt he can or would update that blush now. Oh well...grr grumble. I'll live. But I really did love my Buffy. I'll miss her.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106686.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106686.page GMT
Thanks.
I have seen Sims do the route fail there and I only got it from having a male sim try to use the urinal (I didn't try any more there).
I guess they don't like the urinals so near the wall.

~I wrote it down on the list. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106756.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106756.page GMT
Hello, Drake

Thanks - It's my old remake world.


[quote=SummerSong86]WR thanks so much. So now we know it is the face mask and possibly a hair on a sim I was not playing but was in the town that was messing up RFlong's beautiful work. The two hairstyles I had and it was only two measly hairs were EA wedding hairs minus the actual wedding features. Sounds like they fit the description of the kind of cc that got broken.

Well thank goodnes it was not anything in RF's world she needs to hunt down and fix, then. But I am heartbroken as I spent so much time and effort per day to get my new Buffy sim just right and she needs Will Stefan's face mask blush. I was part of the Buffy Sunnydale crew on MTS. It was an ongoing project to recreate characters and sets from the Buffy the Vampire Slayer show and I had promised those people an update to my Buffy for ages once we got new facial sliders and I could refine her. This was a very long term work in process and I FINALLY got her JUST RIGHT...and now... It's sort of fitting in with the run of luck my family is having and today in particular. Tonight my daughter broke her very favorite Christmas ornament. She never even got to see it on the tree--we had bought it at the beach this summer. My husband came home dispirited about work. It was a stinky evening. Still, compared to 80 percent of the world, we live like charmed beings. Stuff happens, vent, move on and deal.

I wouldn't have minded about the face mask being borked now if I hadn't just succeeded in getting that sim finished using it. Will has not posted new work in ages and I doubt he can or would update that blush now. Oh well...grr grumble. I'll live. But I really did love my Buffy. I'll miss her.[/quote]

There were some small pauses too. I just couldn't find them.

Lots of things come to mind but I will not say the silly things. Vent... it does help.
~ sorry. :hugz:

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I never saw the hole last time--was it there before? I know there was a car behind a wall before--I saw that but could not figure out a way to get into that room--I never did much traps and tomb exploration so I am not familiar with all the props that go with that sort of thing.

My sim got all dirty trying to fill it in. Finally I had him stop trying to do that as he was getting really grungy and I wanted him to talk to some sims at the bar. He saw one other patron he shared a pizza with. There is now one less bouncer. More stuff to do...yay, love the video games. Still nobody on the elite lounge side.

I'm actually still in the game and in the bar. It's a really nice bar...now if only we could get more customers!

I wouldn't freak about the stutters yet...might be spawners filling it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106828.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106828.page GMT
Okay I have to quit for the night. The stutter followed my sim into the house. I might have a corrupted installation. Or it is something messed up at the bar since there were some changes made. I'm willing to try reinstalling the world again tomorrow. I think it could be something borked on my side of it so let me try a reinstall of the world. I can't be positive I remembered to clear all my other cache files like I was supposed and like DM said to. I thought I did but I could have forgotten. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106857.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106857.page GMT
I never saw the hole last time--was it there before? I know there was a car behind a wall before--I saw that but could not figure out a way to get into that room--I never did much traps and tomb exploration so I am not familiar with all the props that go with that sort of thing.

My sim got all dirty trying to fill it in. Finally I had him stop trying to do that as he was getting really grungy and I wanted him to talk to some sims at the bar. He saw one other patron he shared a pizza with. There is now one less bouncer. More stuff to do...yay, love the video games. Still nobody on the elite lounge side.

I'm actually still in the game and in the bar. It's a really nice bar...now if only we could get more customers!

I wouldn't freak about the stutters yet...might be spawners filling it. [/quote]

They are? What fish and hole?
It's a window decoration. There isn't anything to do there and I don't think Sims can do anything to the car anyway- like a post with a window. I might need a door. *See what happens when I try to do interesting*

Oh, the hole! I removed the Station and I thought a Construction hole would be suitable. It doesn't go anywhere. I couldn't find the new saw horses so used the white ones.

It should be two both gender bathrooms. There wasn't a reason to have them upstairs since I removed the Station.
And it's stuttering? I played over a week. Longest I've played since LN was released.
I'm not disbelieving you, just wish I knew what was happening.

I can always redo from the map world like I did Broken Heart.

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106956.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106956.page GMT about sums up what I felt, lol. However, I downloaded the MBC2 rar and it looks like it is the same according to date modified. Whew!

I almost popped right out of the game because I got such a kick out of the subway stations in the domes and wanted to tell you what a great idea I thought that was! You are so darn creative, it just blows me away at times.

The first couple of sim days of play were filled with short little pauses but so far, I can't find anything to account for them. Kiwi_Tea mentioned in the thread on MTS for RBH that it takes a larger population to run a world smoothly now, something I had not given much thought to until he mentioned it. Consequently, it might be possible that we may see these stutters in new empty worlds as they start populating and spawners start activating. Everything leveled off after those first couple of sim days and ran smoothly until right before I quit to post an update for you. On days 10 and 11, the little pauses have started again but not until approx. 12:30 am.

I do have Twallan's MC and Overwatch mods in and on day 10, the pauses stopped after his 3:00 am car cleanup. It's eliminating about 25 cars nightly. On day 11, though, they ran until mid-morning, so now I have to consider there may be a pathing issue I just haven't seen yet. They are 6 to 8 seconds apart but don't last but a couple of seconds. Since they are so short in duration, I don't see how they could be caused by a sim being stuck somewhere. It's more like what I was seeing before you put the door on the garages, just not as severe, thank goodness.

I'll keep looking but am glad there are multiple sets of eyes testing

I almost forgot to tell you that while I was waiting for a doctor to get off work, I moved my camera ever so slightly to the right, if you are looking at the hopital from the front. I saw what at first looked like multi-colored somethings, which turned out to be the fish window thing. Confused me because I thought the club was further right than where my camera was. I was afraid to try and delete it because if it was in the actual club, I was afriad I would really make a mess. Why don't you take a look and see what you think.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106972.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106972.page GMT
I will redo each house and lot just to make sure. Sometimes just checking- looking- isn't enough since this is a not a redo but a add-to world.

So, I'll pause the testing until I get it back into CAW. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106999.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4106999.page GMT Maybe I should uninstall my Stuff packs to make sure I don't use any. But there shouldn't be anything major, right?

I wasn't getting any pauses like that. Blah, I'll find it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4107020.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4107020.page GMT
EDIT - Oops, you snuck a post right by me. The fish I am seeing are the digital ones from the fish window, which you do have in the Station club.

No stutters for you at all? How far along are you? I went like 8 straight days after the initial stutters with none at all. Day 10 brought about the return and they are super short in length. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4107032.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4107032.page GMT
EDIT - Oops, you snuck a post right by me. The fish I am seeing are the digital ones from the fish window, which you do have in the Station club.

No stutters for you at all? How far along are you? I went like 8 straight days after the initial stutters with none at all. Day 10 brought about the return and they are super short in length. [/quote]

I saw the window fish from club while my Sim was in the Hospital building basement. Is that the fish?

I think I hit day nine or ten. I was waiting for the freezes the first few days and nothing. She spent time at the club also. No one else was there though. She ate, drank, danced and went home.

** The club has both male/female doors to the same bathrooms... ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4107064.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4107064.page GMT
I'm baffled as to why you haven't had any stutters at all. Do you think there is any possibility this could come down to computer specs? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4107075.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4107075.page GMT
I'm baffled as to why you haven't had any stutters at all. Do you think there is any possibility this could come down to computer specs? [/quote]

I did notice them but I figure it's EA. They show throw because they're a window-maybe?

I doubt it. It's got to be something I'm missing. I never did go from the fishing dome to the Science building to see that one. So, it's game play style.

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I'll start again tomorrow. I took some sinus medication about an hour ago and have suddenly sunk. Bed is calling me

Don't work too hard on this if you are tired. Sometimes the answers to problems are easier to find after a break.

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I can't discount the possiblity I got a bad installation somehow. Something may have corrupted or got improperly cached. Who knows. Don't forget, I complained about stutters in the prior version yet when I removed my CC they miraculously disappeared and I had a very smooth and enjoyable test run.

There was ONE thing I noticed as I was closing out my testing in that version and that was my character went from being at the very beginning of his life phase to being about a quarter of the way through it in about 5 or 6 sim days! I have aging set to OFF at that point as I was just testing routing and stuttering and misplaced objects-- not yet trying to test for ordinary life cycle things like careers, life cycle of town--all the stuff WritinReg is checking for you in Winter Wonderland. I did have story progression turned ON, though. Only aging was off and was set to maximum anyway. I can't understand why he aged so rapidly.

There is something funky going on IMO about the lounge not having any visitors in it at all. I have celebrities in my population who should be visiting. They should be able to get past the bouncers. I may try putting a different club in before I uninstall just to see if any other people show up. It is either an EA thing or there's something amiss with your club. I would like to find out which is the case. I'm going back into my current install one more time to see if the stuttering is still there. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4108671.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4108671.page GMT
I had noticed in Bridgeport all the bar staff seemed to reside in the actual town in the apartment units that aren't available for us to move into. You can ring their bells and get them to answer and befriend them that way. In this way NPC's differ a bit from when they used to just disappear as homeless sims.

I'm wondering if the stuttering is from any lack of housing for the bar NPC's. I have no idea if that is possible or not. Just in case, I'm experimenting. BTW, the Bridgeport buildings look really at home on Moon Base. I chose the glass apartment building for that reason--very modern and space-y.

Anyway now I will test the venues (clubs and bars) to see if they get patronized by more than only one sim every couple of sim days, as had been happening before. OH I also imported a couple of sims from Brdidgeport. One is a five star celebrity named Hamming and one is a vampire with red hair. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4108861.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4108861.page GMT

I am planning on removing the Club and see how it goes. Putting down a new lot all together.
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Do try placing some of the Bridgeport buildings into Moon Base just to see what it looks like and let me know what you think. I think they look amazing on the moon--much better than in Bridgeport, even! I have tried placing Bridgeport buildings on other worlds including Longview with no aesthetic success, but I think they look most at home and fit in best right there on the moon because the terrain scaping that comes with the buildins matches the terrain paint of the moon. It does look like a nice spaceport. The LLama stadium that comes with Bridgeport is itself somewhat of a dome so if you ever want to use it on your moon it would fit in with the theme.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109137.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109137.page GMT

The Dome Stadium, I will try that.

My Sim did met up at the club with her boss and they had a group outing or whatever it's called now. They had a great time. I don't know if it was because they met there or what.
I'm going in... wish me luck. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109161.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109161.page GMT

I'm not getting stutters in the club while my sim is actually present on the lot, btw. Mine are as described in earlier posts, starting in the middle of the night now and pausing and looking around hasn't revealed anything to account for them.

SS86, I think the idea of the Bridgeport stadium sounds kinda cool. I've wondered how one or two high rises might look with the crain around. Sort of like a "space travel is now successful and the moon is under full development" plot. I haven't put any in, though. I think it's better to be sure what is there is all working correctly.

I'm lovin the new moon world and am so happy it is back in game. It's worth all the testing! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109285.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109285.page GMT It's also a very pretty world. The dome parks are very beautiful and suffice IMO for the spare landscape in the rest of the world. It's far from claustrophic even though so many features are underground.

I think Beau didn't show up at the venue because of his job. The game shouldn't have penalized the outing for that, but you know...the game is what it is and can't account for every scenario.

RF I can't remember did you ask me about the filet of fish in your club? You sounded surprised it was there. I thought it was just a decoration. I will try and specify the location next time I go in.

I had to take a break to clean and organize my daughter's bedroom but will resume testing now. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109569.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109569.page GMT
I'm redoing some of the lots now... Took the Basement out of the Museum. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109958.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4109958.page GMT
I'll get ready for the new MBC test version and switch switch to WW as I wait. That won't be a hardship, even if my brain does want to focus on the moon ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4110027.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4110027.page GMT
I'm actually in CAW relaying lots and not the game right now. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4110152.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4110152.page GMT
I did not take the bar out to test because I never had any stutters in it while on the lot. Do you want me to reinstall this version and try that? I didn't mean to jump the gun, your prior post sounded like you already had the new version close to being ready to go and I was trying to be ready to start with it right away .]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4110222.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4110222.page GMT
It's like the tide, it comes and it goes. I had sent my sim to skill up at different venues. I hadn't even seen the museum much less known it was in a basement. I did harvest plants at the cemetary. I let the game run while I walked my dog and came back to no disasters while my sim attended classes after classes.

I had my sim try and make friends all over town to see if that would start driving more visitors to the different bars and hot spots. I hadn't gotten to test my theory yet. I did go to the one apartment building I set down on the world and it was chock full--more than I ever saw in Bridgeport--full of NPC's!

I have to go pick up my kid in a few minutes. I probably can't test any more today since I have to go over some lessons with my daughter and do some housework. I'll come back and check to see when a new test version is up. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4110871.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4110871.page GMT I'm going to try and crash the party but I am running out of time as I have to pick up my girl pretty much now. Please if you are seeing stutters take my DOme house OUT and see if that cures it. I need to test but I'm outta time. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4111005.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4111005.page GMT
but let me know when the newest version is available so I can help test.

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I'll go back in for a few minutes to make sure that party is normal and then I am done for the night unfortunately.

You know it's a neat house and I'm proud of it but I don't know if I trust that odd terrain sculpting I had to do to create it. Is there any way to make sure it's "safe" when no ready problem pops up to smack us in the face? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4112037.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4112037.page GMT I'm so sorry RFlong7. Everything was fine with it until it was time for the guests to exit the party. Most of them did but it seemed they queued up awkwardly to do so. Then the last guest could not make it off the property at all. HE kept doing the route failure dance of doom.

I've copied all the patterns used to make some of the cooler parts of that lot. I'll try my hand at building a nice little conventional style house under one of your domes that doesn't have a house under it using some of those neat things I had made for the lot. We don't need that strange dome roof I made anyway now that we have good glass domes...though a dome roof on a conventional style house that isn't sunken should be fine. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4112247.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4112247.page GMT
I put charging stations for twizzys on the lot as you are familiar with from my other work. I had taken cell phone photos of my old lot so I could copy the charging stations properly and any other features I cared to reproduce. I gotta run now. I can't believe I was doing that I'm not supposed to be on the computer now! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4112809.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4112809.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4113911.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4113911.page GMT

Okay, if you want to reinstall. I'm writing up the list of houses for WW and getting some small stuff done. I hope to have it done by Friday.

Thank you both for sticking with me here. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4114208.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4114208.page GMT

Go ahead and do what you need to do on WW. That really should have priority because of the time of year. In addition to the final version, I know people are expecting a save game with the sims made for the world and that takes time.

I did reinstall MBC and have been testing since my last post. I'm on day 7. I deleted SS's house before even starting to place families. The first day I had the pauses but they stopped that night. That was an improvement over the last start because I had 2 days of short freezes in that game.

I took a sim to the Station on day 6 and the stutters started when I had her get in the hot tub. At the beginning of day 7, I went onto the Station lot just to look around and can't see any reason for the pauses. I decided to make a minor change to see if it has any effect. I deleted the little half wall at the bar on the hot tub side and removed that one chair to give the bartender 2 full spaces to exit from behind the bar. I then just picked the hot tub up and set it back down one tile different and have saved. I quit to check in here and to make myself a cup of coffee, so I don't know yet if it has made any difference at all. If not, I'm first going to remove just the hot tub and see what happens. If that doesn't help, then I will bin the lot and bulldoze to see if the stutters stop completely or not. Naturally, I'll keep you posted as to how it is going. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4115019.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4115019.page GMT
I won't be testing the new house right away so we don't confuse any problems that the NEW build might introduce.

I think it is a good idea though to build a house on that lot and test it since you do provide it to end users to build on. So we'll see if an end user can build on it without trouble! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4115033.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4115033.page GMT
Yes I heartily agree WW is a priority this time of year. I can't wait for it myself. I wish I could test it, too. I just don't have enough time to give both worlds decent attention though. So I will focus on moon since so many people are playing WW. I love it so much and want to see it succeed, too. I'm so grateful you decided to revisit it and update it. Thanks so much! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4115093.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4115093.page GMT
Update on what's happening now. When I started the game up again, I had a few more of the brief pauses but then they stopped and have not started again. Tomorrow I will start day 10. I am cautiously optimistic that making the minor changes, especially picking the hot tub up and moving it one tile closer to the door, may have worked. The next time I sent my sim to the club and she got in the hot top, no stutters started.

Like SS86, however, there is never anybody in the club except for the mixologists and the one bouncer. On her last trip there a papparazzi(sp?) showed up to photograph her but I have yet to see another town resident put in an appearance. This has held true even though I have taken residents from multiple households.

I've also got to find out how to change the speaker music. The shift+click DM said to try didn't produce a way to do it and that side of the Station needs more upbeat music. I'm off to search the Late Night forum ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4115995.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4115995.page GMT You may have to enable the testing cheats, I can't remember for certain. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4116051.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4116051.page GMT
It's okay--I learned a lot from making that house so it's not a total waste. I'm reusing the textures from that house for the new one I just made. There's much about the look and feel of the new house that is taken from the old.

LOL--but sorry, no gardening or fishing in the basement this time, folks! I am leery of using spawners since the last round of EP's and patches came out and I learned of issues spawners can cause when added to a lot. I am also avoiding the BuyDBug cheat so I won't use those invisible lights anymore, either. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117072.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117072.page GMT

I've gotten rid of that club. I went in to delete the basement club and build it different~ There were no grid lines. I couldn't get any even when I deleted the basement, put it in the bin and replaced the whole lot. So the building is bust. I have no idea why it went weird.
I've built a new one~ haven't tested it yet.


~I had a ghost buster at your lot and the only thing I saw was the tendency of the ghost to go to the solar levels. It was time consuming to wait for them to come down but once they did she got them. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117497.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117497.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117701.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117701.page GMT BTW, no, you don't have to enter testingcheats to use it but you do have to be in build/buy mode.

I'm glad you're doing another house SS86 because I, too, am a little leery of your original. When the creator recommends tossing something, I listen

Rflong, when I got further into day 10 the little stutters returned. I see now that you have found a definite problem with the club. I binned it and bulldozed the lot right before I quit but haven't tested play to see if removing it totally eliminates those pesky little blips. I'll do that in a bit. I put the P.U.R.E club in that some of us are using in SOCL so I would still have a club. BTW, when saved to the bin the pic for the club is totally strange looking. You can't really tell what the bldg. looks like as it is teeney tiny on a solid white background. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117764.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117764.page GMT [/quote]

It's not something to worry about. It happened to all the lots because of the flooring used as roofs on my entries for the Domes too. It was expected. I'm going to change to flat roof tile to see if it stops the ghosts using the roof as a floor.
Might want to try it too. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117804.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117804.page GMT BTW, no, you don't have to enter testingcheats to use it but you do have to be in build/buy mode.

I'm glad you're doing another house SS86 because I, too, am a little leery of your original. When the creator recommends tossing something, I listen

Rflong, when I got further into day 10 the little stutters returned. I see now that you have found a definite problem with the club. I binned it and bulldozed the lot right before I quit but haven't tested play to see if removing it totally eliminates those pesky little blips. I'll do that in a bit. I put the P.U.R.E club in that some of us are using in SOCL so I would still have a club. BTW, when saved to the bin the pic for the club is totally strange looking. You can't really tell what the bldg. looks like as it is teeney tiny on a solid white background. [/quote]

I have no idea what happened. And that's weird about the thumbnail. Never saw it.
I did delete the whole lot from the world layer also. The newest lot still has it's grid and seems okay~ *fingers crossed* ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117898.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4117898.page GMT
I think I might see another potential problem similar to the one for my dome house terrain that occurs inside the entry to the military base. On the entry level, there are stairs that lead to a flat landing to another set of stairs that go down to the base. The problem I just caught is that the landing is not perfectly flat. I"ll come back to edit this post with a photo of the problem.

Okay how do I do this...uh...

http://llnw.thesims3.com/sims3_asset/sims3_asset/media/shard000//shard000/325/229/007/00/screenshot_original.jpg

Is this a potential problem? I couldn't honestly say. My sim routed down it just fine but I haven't been down those stairs much. Do sims get stuck there when I'm not looking, I don't know? It reminds me a bit of the terrain issue my Dome House had so I thought I'd better mention it just in case.

I forgot to say that even with my Dome House Deleted and the Club Deleted my current test Save version still experiences periodic stuttering

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I think I might see another potential problem similar to the one for my dome house terrain that occurs inside the entry to the military base. On the entry level, there are stairs that lead to a flat landing to another set of stairs that go down to the base. The problem I just caught is that the landing is not perfectly flat. I"ll come back to edit this post with a photo of the problem.

Okay how do I do this...uh...

http://llnw.thesims3.com/sims3_asset/sims3_asset/media/shard000//shard000/325/229/007/00/screenshot_original.jpg

Is this a potential problem? I couldn't honestly say. My sim routed down it just fine but I haven't been down those stairs much. Do sims get stuck there when I'm not looking, I don't know? It reminds me a bit of the terrain issue my Dome House had so I thought I'd better mention it just in case.

I forgot to say that even with my Dome House Deleted and the Club Deleted my current test Save version still experiences periodic stuttering

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No, that's not ever been a problem before. It's considered a slope and they walk down them fine. I've used it on house walkways up and down a sloped lot.
It might be now, I have no idea.

Okay, I'll scrap this version. Thanks you both for testing.
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I'm still having stuttering and am looking now more closely at the Diner/Entertainment complex. That place is popular and PACKED! Whoa--I hadn't been visiting that often since skilling up my test sim but I just started a different sim to help me search all the lots and buildings even closer and I couldn't believe how packed that place was. I did some crazy things to see what's up and had my Sim woohoo in the theater with two romantic interests just for the heck of it. Fine the first time, got caught the second time, LOL. A roommate was also in the vicinity, eating in the diner. My primary test sim is a vampire now and the secondary one got turned but hasn't become a vampire yet.

I don't know if vampire coding is borking the game or what. But lots of stuttering down in the entertainment complex. In the next test version DD and I should really focus on that section and try and do anything. Test with vampires, no vampires, all that. My sim wasn't always a vampire. I'm trying to see if there's a correlation now between the presence of a vampire and stutering. That will be next on my agenda.

I am unfortunately running out of time to test. This weekend is a busy one preparing my daughter for a school pageant. I'll do what I can. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4118666.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4118666.page GMT
My druthers would be to see you upload this version but with the house gone and the new club. From the way my game is now playing, if the new club is okay, the world needs no other adjustments.

EDIT - Gads, sorry, I skimmed SS86's post in my rush to type this. I am not having any problems in the entertainment complex. I've been there a lot and the worse thing I saw was a sim on one side of the first fountain near the stairs and a sim in front of the bench throwing route failure for trying to walk through the fountain. Stupid sim. Didn't cause any stutters and resolved almost immediately.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119285.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119285.page GMT
I'm still getting stuttering without the club or the house but if you're not then maybe something is messed up somewhere in my installation. Are you playing any vampires by the way? Or have you seen any vampires? I'm starting to wonder about the vampires. Also I may need to take out the Bridgeport clubs that I put in. I never had Bridgeport stutter but others have and might be something in one of those builds that causes it.

At any rate I'm thinking it is time to test a new version that is issued without the club or my old house.

I'd like to upload my new house for testing but not sure how to get it to you without everyone else downloading off the exchange. I could label it "TEST HOUSE DO NOT DOWNLOAD" or something. I did that earlier today to see if the Exchange would tell me the house requires HELS since I recognized one of the patterns as a HELS pattern.

Oh hey--what does happen if you download the house that has a HELS patern in it but you don't own HELS? WOuld that cause trouble? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119360.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119360.page GMT
SS86, I do think we have some other difference in our games in this version since you are still encountering stuttering, so let's see if we can figure out what it is that might account for the fact my problem is resolved and your isn't. It could be that you have taken some action that I haven't and that the stutters will reoccur when I do.

The first thing that comes to mind for me is that you indicated you added some Bridgeport high rises and I don't have any in my game. Is that in your test version, or a separate save you are also playing? If they are in your test version maybe one of them is causing a problem. I do have vampires in my save but I have not actively played one of them.

As for the HELS pattern, I'm not sure what will occur. For a lot, I think the game would just replace it with something else. A world file may be a different story. When I dl'd johnnywr's M'Kee, the HELS bonus item came with the world for those who had HELS and those who didn't have HELS couldn't install the world.

EDIT - I just thought of something else that could be a HUGE difference in our games. I am using Twallan's Overwatch mod which removes excess vehicles every night. The last couple of times it has run it has removed 30+ cars. If you aren't using it, I wonder if the car build up in sims inventorie and on streets might account for your stutters. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119522.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119522.page GMT
Okay well definitely don't include my new house in the packaged world then, either. What a shame. I guess I could just upload it to my studio and people can opt to put it in their Moon Base world if they want to. I did set the roofs as roofs and didn't build them using floor tiles.

I have one high rise from Bridgeport and then Club Aquarius and two other clubs that escape me at the moment. I'll take them out and test my current "scrapped version" of the world.

DD thanks for being there for me to bounce questions off of! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119777.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119777.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119793.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4119793.page GMT

It was so interesting reading you to work at this. I'm gonna have to *gift you two big time...

After this weekend I'll put together a version without the house and Club. A new Club and see what happens.

Busy with Holiday things this weekend. and <-I love the parties, hate the shopping.
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LOL, I guess you can tell who the 2 biggest afficionados of MBC are, which isn't to indicate others don't like it because I know there are more who do.

As far as I am concerned, MBC is the gift I will be getting and I can't think of a better one

Enjoy the weekend off, you need a break. Besides, it will just give SS86 and myself more time to see if we can concretely figure out the pauses. I like having SS86 as a testing partner, we tend to tag team pretty well. We knocked out the testing of A Distant Glacier for SimRealtor, along with Pary's help, too, pretty darn quickly. I don't think I'll ever forget the world tree, within a tree, within a tree. That was so weird.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4120333.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4120333.page GMT
My testing will be a bit spotty this weekend because we have some holiday prep work to do and my daughter is in a holiday pageant so I have to buy her the clothes they use for the costumes. But I think I'll get some time even tonight after dinner.

I'm going to start a new Save Game without the Bridgeport buildings and clubs. I only had them in to see if they would attract patrons. We need to find out why the bars in this world aren't getting patronage. I know the townspeople aren't stuck. I see them in a huge mass at the popular Dining/Entertainment complex. I've also seen them at parties. Parties seem to work well enough in this world. Even better than in Bridgeport where sometimes I couldn't seem to get into an apartment building.

I'm wondering if we just don't have enough housing to bring the population to a critical mass to trigger bar patronage.

DD you may have a point about Overwatch. I do not have this mod. I paid attention to what you and DM were saying about the car spawning problem. For some reason I never noticed that problem in the different saves I played of Bridgeport. But it may be a factor in user-created worlds. I have noticed a lot of cars parked in the parking spaces. Junker clunkers. Yet I see really nice ones driving around. At some point I'll try Overwatch and see if that brings the stuttering to a sopt if removing Bridgeport buildings doesn't help.

LOL about that tree within a tree in A Distant GLacier. I did love that world. Is it still a beta? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4121259.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4121259.page GMT
I do also think that population comes into play with the empty clubs and until you get the Bridgeport bldgs. out, your game will be worse off than mine. You can put in the P.U.R.E. club DM recommended. There is a community lot that is 40x30 across from the library, I think it is. My game is running smoothly with it in place.

I'll be testing off and on all weekend, too. Hopefully, we can have pretty much the same neighborhood setup and see if we can get the pauses banished once and for all.

I'll finish up with stating that I don't think Twallan's Overwatch mod is a luxury but a necessity at this point. In addition to the cars you see parked everywhere, those clunkers are also in sims inventories. Twallan's mod removes only the vehicles that are tagged temporary in the game coding, so you shouldn't have to worry about losing cars you buy for your sims that may be in their inventories.

Also, he found and quashed the bug where sims gather in excessive quantities and won't leave events in the film career. Apparently, those opportunities don't have coding to end the event, even after it is over. EA will have to get that bug in another patch. As far as I am concerned, Overwatch is a must have mod for a smooth running game. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4122151.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4122151.page GMT
Ditto!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4122288.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4122288.page GMT

I'll be getting the mod soon.
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[img]http://llnw.thesims3.com/sims3_asset/sims3_asset/media/shard000//shard000/082/225/007/00/screenshot_original.jpg"width=650"[/img]]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4127030.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4127030.page GMT Nice job! That's a great detail to add. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4127056.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4127056.page GMT When it's night I was so busy trying to test the clubs and even trying to lure people into them--have my sim run out and talk. Trying to find out if there's a routing issues or something keeping the clubs vacant...I totally missed that. I was looking for a surprise but I was looking for it in buildings! TOOO COOOLLLLLLL! How DID you do that? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4127085.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4127085.page GMT
Speaking of problems, I am officially confused by whatever is going on with MBC. When I went back in to play last night, the stutters were back as soon as I loaded the save. You could have knocked me over with a feather because I have no clue how I could save and quit a game that was running perfectly, reload the save and have stutters before I ever did anything

I've also played MBC quite a bit today and the stutters have continued. They are 6 to 10 seconds apart, last for just a moment but aren't a 24/7 thing. The start about 6:30 a.m., last to about 11:00 a.m. and then stop. They start again about 3:00 p.m, last for another couple of hours and stop again. Then, they start again about 11:00 p.m. and last until about 2:00 a.m. I'm still looking for causes but so far no luck.

On a different note, here are a couple of pics of a house I built under a dome. I think it's at 20 Crater something Just an EA roof but I'm happy with it. I wanted to use some of the fairy objects I had had for a while but not done anything with. I figured greenery would be missed by a moon resident so this house is the result. It's occupied by a doctor who is single at the moment but the 2 bedroom, 2 bath has plenty of room for him to add a wife and children Sharing the pics because building is such an unusual thing for me to do

[IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/14m9r90.jpg[/IMG]

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~ I learned it from Stw's post on how to recolor the moon.

~ The house is cute. I think they would miss greenery very much. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4129006.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4129006.page GMT
Next time I will actually write down the time of the stuttering but I do believe it's happening for me on about the same schedule. I don't have it going on all day, either. It's definitely intermittent. I will right down the times as I start noticing it and get back to you on it.

I really love playing this world as the stuttering isn't game-stopping and it does pass. I actually used to have this sort of stuttering happen to me all the time when I first started playing custom worlds. I probably had the evil doll in at that time and didn't know it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4130899.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4130899.page GMT
Now for the sad news. My save is toast. It could not be loaded, I kept getting a serious error message, restart the application, so I've dumped it and will have to start over. Actually, I know what the error had to be but don't know why it happened. I noticed when mousing over the save file that the time of the save on the folder part was different from the time shown under date modified. The one under date modified was the correct time I quit this afternoon but the folder showed some 14 hours earlier Oh well, at least I'm glad I had binned the house I built a few saves ago, because I wouldn't have been happy to have lost it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4131045.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4131045.page GMT
I was playing my long-running stuttering Save game and after bulldozing all the Bridgeport lots the stuttering decreased and I noticed the last session starting from around 8:16 pm to about 2 a.m.-ish.

I went ahead and made a new clean Save with Dome House deleted, Station deleted, P.U.R.E. installed on the vacant lot across from the Social complex that has the theater in it.

I took Rflong7's Yellow Starter house lot and copied it and put it on some empty lots where it would fit, so I can put extra families and see if we increase the population, will we finally have enough people to attend P.U.R.E--or will they continue to flock to the Social/Entertainment lot? That lot that has the theater and spa in it is one of the most hopping spots I've ever seen in a town and I wonder if something about it is too attractive and keeps extra sims from going to the club.

In my next test session, whenever that is, I will be examining the goings on at the underground stadium more closely. I hadn't noticed the usual activities and opportunities cropping up at the stadium yet so I think that bears examination.

I've been making note of how WR is testing WW and at some point hope to emulate how she tests careers and career venues. I just haven't had a chance to do that yet. I think that's important though because I notice WR uncovers routing issus when she does that. WR rocks! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4135128.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4135128.page GMT
Since it would seem the thing that would cause a problem with your dome house now is the dome roof, I deleted it and just let the EA tool roof it. I put the Funke pre-made EA family from the bin in it and added two more households. For the first time since installing MBC, I didn't have stutters for the first two sim days. They did start back up in the early morning hours of the third day but were erratic and spaced about 13 seconds apart. By the 5th day, they've settled back into 6 to 10 seconds apart like my last game.

Whatever the problem is, it increases with a larger population. I also noticed when I checked the population status with Twallan's MasterController mod that the world is averaging a homeless population of about 14. This is higher then what I get in other worlds, where it seems to hold at about 4, with 9 being the highest number I've seen since installing Late Night. I couldn't figure out how to list the homeless, lol but will because I want to know if they are singles or a large family that doesn't find adequate housing. Right before I quit playing, I went into the Blue and Reaper homes and added some more single beds to them to see if that has any effect on the homeless number.

I think there is a possibility that the social complex has too much of a draw for sims for the available free space for congregating. In most other worlds, the diner and theatre are on their own lots. Rflong, what about moving the diner and theatre to a separate lot? I don't mean a lot for each but another lot for just the two of them, or, actually, you could move any two of the venues. I'm thinking the possibility exists that it is just too crowded down there.

EDIT - Yes, WR does rock. She's a good tester ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4135615.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4135615.page GMT
So, with Mixologists, Bouncers, and any job the Sim doesn't take such as Consignment/Beautician/tattoo artists are fill with Sims which need housing?

I don't mind moving the theater and diner but I normally put the theater and bistro on a lot together~ only because I like a dinner and a movie.
With everything changing now, I don't know. It shouldn't draw any more then it used to which was the main community lot for activity.

Okay... But then, how to make a smaller world work with this demand on housing? I know it's a large world but it doesn't have that many lots so should work like a smaller world.


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I also don't know how to cope with the demand for housing. I don't recall seeing bouncers in housing but I have seen mixologists, stylists, tatoo artists etc. in housing in other worlds. Consequently, I know the game engine will move them in if there is housing available. LOL, that's how I've had the one and only level 10 mixologist. She was married to the consignment store clerk and yes, they had a house. When you activate a house like that, they show as unemployed and have LTWs but the mixologist had the level 10 skill and I had seen her bartending at a club before I activated the house.

I'm afraid the need for large maps because of all the careers and professions now available is a reality and will be even more essential as more EP's are added.

As far as what venues you move from the social complex, I don't think it matters. What I was trying to convey is that five venues might be too many for the complex. I actually don't know that to be a fact but think splitting a couple out is a good way to see if that stops the stutters. That would give you a little more room to spread the remaining buildings a little further apart and more open area for sims to congregate and move around, thus eliminating the possibility of them getting stuck or route failure for the brief moment a stutter lasts. Whatever is causing the stutteres, the game engine is working out a solution pretty quickly.

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We may need to start watching the theater to see if stuttering correlates to when movies are being shown. I will make note to do that in my next test run.

Beyond stuttering, I'm trying to solve the mystery of why the club attracs NO patrons EVER. In the beginning I got one per play session in The Station. At P.U.R.E I've gotten only a paparrazi. I wonder if club attendance is affected by there being too many high-draw shell buildings on one lot. The fact they are underground is also something to consider. That lot is a sim magnet for some reason. Maybe when the venues are more separated the game makes a more equitable distribution of sims across the whole town.

When I had a high rise in my save, it quickly filled to the brim with NPC's. I am also reading death notices and move notices for sims I never even saw in the game. I don't have a mod that would count the homeless for me but I suspect I have a LOT spawning in game now. I don't even have that many employed sims. Imagine what it will be like if the game has to spawn coworkers for me. I'm having trouble with my browser sp ;et ,e sp sp so let me continue this note on a new post. Sorry. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4137947.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4137947.page GMT
So we have some sort of capacity issue going on in MBC. I don't know why we aren't seeing that in WW...or any other custom world that lacks high rises. This world is very different from any other world I've played but to me, nothing looks different in a way that could impact the things we are taking note of. As a creator, knowing how it was constructed, RF, do you know of any way it differs significantly from your other builds? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4137983.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4137983.page GMT
Hm...Why would EA move the NPCs into high-rises only?
I realize they need the NPcs and yet the game would use the neighborhood Sims for jobs- such as Stylists and consignments jobs. Or make and move new ones in for the jobs.
Firefights aren't made unless there is a player made Sim and then the game uses the Sims in the world already.
So, now~ I doubt everyone uses highrises for smaller worlds. One club shouldn't have much difference. But... you sound more right then anything I could reason.

The only difference are the domes over houses. More basements with rabbitholes and more Expansions and patches since this was made. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4138022.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4138022.page GMT
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The game already makes significant demands on a town either in using residents or generating homeless sims to fulfill career demands for employed playables. Those never used to require "warehousing" and indeed could in the past only be reachable by phone or they were actually moved into a functioning lot. So there needs to be some housing provided with them in mind.

The register NPC's usually are taken from the playable population. So far my consignment store clerk has always been a resident.

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Okay so the other issue I see is what Reg seems to be uncovering for lot sizes. That one I don't understand quite as well since I haven't seen with my own eyes what she is talking about. But apparently now builders should make room for really large lot sizes to ensure the shell buildings function correctly? Was I understanding Reg correctly on that?

Oh boy my head is hurting...coffee hurry up and kick in! Well I could be way off base but I just wanted to note down my observations and see if collectively we can determine if these all translate into much heavier demands on a world and a world builder that we need to account for. I'm worried Late Night potentially is imposing a more rigid standard that is going to make it very hard for world builders to build the way they want as opposed to meeting dictates and demands of the coding. The days of Sim Realtor's tightly packed worlds with small lots could be over. And that's a shame because she likes them that way and I'd hate to see her forced into a style she doesn't really like. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4139567.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4139567.page GMT
I can say that from my time playing Bridgeport, the game is going to demand the following of world builders...okay have to start a new post because my browser is about to flake...[/quote]

It can't be this way or EA just screwed the world builders. If we wanted three bars and no highrises then the game should keep the NPCs hidden. They aren't needed in the world unless called or at work- like the Service NPCs.
If EA doesn't understand this they need to clean house of their programmers and find the ones who have actually played or understand this.
Population has always been an issue with the Sims 2 and 3. Too big and the world starts to burn. ~not mad, just not comprehending their thinking~

Ack~ EA starts off one way, changes and then changes again. A little consistency would be wonderful.

The routing issue WR found was a fence/building issue which has been around for a long time. Some have problem with it and some don't. I swear the lots route weird with each placing.
The required 3 squares when placing a building, fence or what not. The fence blocked and made the Sim run around to the spot where they Should have been- like trying picking up a toddler and they walk around the house to one square from the wall- you know?
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My personal opinion - which I by all right should keep to myself as I have not loaded this world since way back when it was first finished - but I still wonder if those domes are not playing a part in this as they are considered an neighborhood object aren't they and not a build mode - playable object, or am I wrong about that? Where I'm going with this is the constant issue of certain objects after a period of time falling underground. It was one thing when it was just landscaping, but since late night I am also seeing lots of fountains too. But in the case of the fountains they are not technically falling through the ground just showing up underground below where they are placed above ground.

Having had issues testing Aunty Lynds Medieval World where falling trees made the entire world go stuttering solely because the witches house trees blocked the underground stairs to the world layer from the underground hospital and trapped half the town underground - for me the world became unplayable until I could again regain entrants and exits for the sims up to the regular world. But fountains are way bigger than trees and domes are way bigger than fountains. Could the domes be trying to go underground also, but having the houses under them keep them from going underground?


It's just a thought, as I have found just about any "trick" used to change what EA programmed something to do tends to make the game do things it would not ordinarily do and hince might just be the cause for the stuttering?


Also, are the domes in this world the newest versions or is there just one version? Rflong when you rebuilt the world did you use all new stuff from the neighborhood build stuff, or is that original domes still from the base game. That may make a difference if EA has changed the programming on any of the neighborhood stuff which odds are they did for users to use that stuff in edit world or would edit world and CAW have a different set of "Stuff" for neighborhood decorations?

It could be something as simple as still having old un-updated stuff in the same world as new stuff colliding.

If anyone know Pes well enough perhaps ask him to look at the files and see if he sees anything weird as he know exactly how the programming files supposed to look.

Just a bunch of ideas, and I don't know if it even helps because they are so scattered. I am after all intruding, I know and if nothing is relevant just forget I said anything.

Oh and thanks for the compliments on my testing WW. I do hope I checked every flake of snow, or I just know I won't be as happy with the job I did. hehehe


Needless to say the probs you guys are having here is mind blowing, and keeps me as distant as possible from this place. But it is so lovely now to look at, so i do hope you guys find an answer.


Rflong: The issue in WW though even though it might have been a problem latter was not causing weirdness yet anyway. Just for the heck of it, I have left that building in Isle of Sims that I set up just to test that building, just to make sure it does not cause some lingering after affects even with it left in there. If it does create havoc, I can at least send a personal email off to one of the head engineer/producers at EA that I actually know. He actually worked on Sims 2 and now works on the console versions of the game - but he can communicate with the Sims 3 engineers perhaps and get that building changed. I highly doubt I will get anywhere if the thing does not do some sort of damage. it is not likely they will change a building that just makes the sims do something unusal, and so far I'm not seeing anything weird in Isle of Sims. I did leave it running while I took my shower and did some chores earlier. Then I checked out a few sims and sent them to a few different places to see if anyone acted odd. I also checked out the 4 sims I have with the film career occupations and they are all as normal as sims can possibly be anyway. So I do not think that building created any rifts, but I plan to leave it there and just let the world play itself for a few days to be sure. Then if I do see anything, I will take it out and replace it like you did in WW. The only thing that worried me is the fact it is tagged improperly for a backlot, as the other two backlots are not tagged like that with the home owners association crap. This is why I am watching it.

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My personal opinion - which I by all right should keep to myself as I have not loaded this world since way back when it was first finished - but I still wonder if those domes are not playing a part in this as they are considered an neighborhood object aren't they and not a build mode - playable object, or am I wrong about that? Where I'm going with this is the constant issue of certain objects after a period of time falling underground. It was one thing when it was just landscaping, but since late night I am also seeing lots of fountains too. But in the case of the fountains they are not technically falling through the ground just showing up underground below where they are placed above ground. [/quote]

They are now build objects and not only world objects~ Late Night added them. There is one in Bridgeport as a Community park.

[quote]Having had issues testing Aunty Lynds Medieval World where falling trees made the entire world go stuttering solely because the witches house trees blocked the underground stairs to the world layer from the underground hospital and trapped half the town underground - for me the world became unplayable until I could again regain entrants and exits for the sims up to the regular world. But fountains are way bigger than trees and domes are way bigger than fountains. Could the domes be trying to go underground also, but having the houses under them keep them from going underground?

It's just a thought, as I have found just about any "trick" used to change what EA programmed something to do tends to make the game do things it would not ordinarily do and hince might just be the cause for the stuttering?
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No. I did have a Sim enter EAs dome in Bridgport. It's the same build style.
It's a good thought.


[quote]Also, are the domes in this world the newest versions or is there just one version? Rflong when you rebuilt the world did you use all new stuff from the neighborhood build stuff, or is that original domes still from the base game. That may make a difference if EA has changed the programming on any of the neighborhood stuff which odds are they did for users to use that stuff in edit world or would edit world and CAW have a different set of "Stuff" for neighborhood decorations?[/quote]

All new domes added in EIG on lots.

[quote]It could be something as simple as still having old un-updated stuff in the same world as new stuff colliding.[/quote]

But what would it be- Military base/every building? I would have to go through every lot to change out each building- which is why I'm redoing the whole world. Not just rebuilding what was there but a new world map.

[quote]If anyone know Pes well enough perhaps ask him to look at the files and see if he sees anything weird as he know exactly how the programming files supposed to look.[/quote]

It's okay. I will find it myself. I've only poked him a few times when he and his group would wander onto TS2 forum.
Yeah, I did and his minions would tell be I wasn't doing it right. Like I didn't know what I was doing. :lmao:

[quote]Just a bunch of ideas, and I don't know if it even helps because they are so scattered. I am after all intruding, I know and if nothing is relevant just forget I said anything.

Oh and thanks for the compliments on my testing WW. I do hope I checked every flake of snow, or I just know I won't be as happy with the job I did. hehehe


Needless to say the probs you guys are having here is mind blowing, and keeps me as distant as possible from this place. But it is so lovely now to look at, so i do hope you guys find an answer.[/quote]

I may not find the problem but I will redo my world. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4140911.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4140911.page GMT
I started a fresh version of the town. I have noted in this town, as in the previous one...stutters occuring around the time of very late night that the paparrazi starts stalking my celebrity vampire's house. It takes her a long time to actually come in. I can see her on the horizon as she appears at the road where my 20 Landing Crater house is located. She is actually somewhere between 20 Landing Crater and the next lot on that street. I didn't see her enter my property because she sneaked around while my sims were playing musical instruments and I was working on them.

There were big delays when my sim tried to talk to her once she got into the house. I don't know if it's pure coincidence, but once she left the property the stutters eased up immediately and then went away all together.

So far in watching the theater, it did not seem that the stutters corresponded to movie showtimes, yet. But this is the first day and it took sims most of the day to appear on that lot. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141061.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141061.page GMT
I watched the military base while my Sims were in classes. I didn't see anything going on whatsoever in them while my sims were on other lots. I didn't get stuttering on this first day in the new save until the paparrazi appeared on my home lot as described in my last post. I can't even begin to know if the paparrazi appearing triggered the stutters or what. I am trying to remember if something similar happened when my apartment in Bridgeport got invaded by one.

The only delays I can remember offhand in Bridgeport came from anytime I click on a mixologist. The options menu doesn't always come up right away. there's a delay. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141092.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141092.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141146.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141146.page GMT
Rflong: The issue in WW though even though it might have been a problem latter was not causing weirdness yet anyway. Just for the heck of it, I have left that building in Isle of Sims that I set up just to test that building, just to make sure it does not cause some lingering after affects even with it left in there. If it does create havoc, I can at least send a personal email off to one of the head engineer/producers at EA that I actually know. He actually worked on Sims 2 and now works on the console versions of the game - but he can communicate with the Sims 3 engineers perhaps and get that building changed. I highly doubt I will get anywhere if the thing does not do some sort of damage. it is not likely they will change a building that just makes the sims do something unusal, and so far I'm not seeing anything weird in Isle of Sims. I did leave it running while I took my shower and did some chores earlier. Then I checked out a few sims and sent them to a few different places to see if anyone acted odd. I also checked out the 4 sims I have with the film career occupations and they are all as normal as sims can possibly be anyway. So I do not think that building created any rifts, but I plan to leave it there and just let the world play itself for a few days to be sure. Then if I do see anything, I will take it out and replace it like you did in WW. The only thing that worried me is the fact it is tagged improperly for a backlot, as the other two backlots are not tagged like that with the home owners association crap. This is why I am watching it.

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When you removed the Movie lot did you notice anything weird with the empty lot? I think I remember you saying something about it... Maybe not.

Once I removed the lot in game it left the blue hole- which does usually means corrupt CC or a corrupt lot.
It's why I went back to an earlier save to find where the lot was normal before removing it there and continuing on.
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But suggesting Pes was because I have seen people send him files that he looks at and he finds their problem in less than a few hours - mainly because 9 times out of 10 it's a programming fluke which is usually some bit of weirdness EA did, but Pes has figured out how people can counter the flakiness to make the thing work. But usually the senders are one of his close knit group or another well known and talented modder that has his respect. I have no clue what he thinks of world creators, but judging from lurking there a lot I do think he does not see creators very high on the knowledge food chain because they aren't some kind of programmer. So it would be intimidating to say the least if Pes does not at least have a lot of respect for the one asking.

I must say he has spoke with me a few times, mainly since sims 3 came out and I never opened my mouth on that site with Sims 2 - they'd poke me just for being long winded, but each time I did speak with him and got a reply - even an outright conversation a few times, he was helpful and no one poked. But i would not dream of going to him with something that was not mine for sure. I just did not know if you knew him or maybe DD might. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141267.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141267.page GMT

As it ended up in the world I was testing with the sims in it, I just bulldozed the lot once to remove the building, and then ended up setting down the small back lot from the build mode community lots that would fit on that 50 x 50. I did add pavement under the building and to the road after placing the lot. But I never got a blue lot.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141328.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141328.page GMT
But the version that was in WW is messed up by EA and it is not fixable by us or caused by us. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141421.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4141421.page GMT
I also saw something reported in Twallan's MC mod when I checked population that I have never seen before. The first check showed 26 households with 24 residents. How in the heck can one have more households then occupants? I didn't know what to make of that. The second check right before I quit showed 27 households with 27 residents. That seems skewed to me, too, because I know at least one home has parents and 3 kids and another has 3 adults and one child. I'm not sure what to make of those numbers but was too tired to try to analyze in depth. I'll take a closer look at the town family screen today.

There were only 3 homes available for move-in and the homeless count was 22. I had hoped that adding in the extra beds to those 2 homes might allow the game engine to set up roomie households. I went ahead and duped one of the empty homes, the orange dome one because it was empty and placed it on a lot and added my Revelry house I built for Isle of Sims on a lot without a dome to get more housing in place.

Oh, gosh, can't forget to add what I consider a big yay for MBC. I took a sim back to the dig site lot and she was able to excavate one of the piles! I didn't get to try the second pile because she had to get home for a party but there was a whoop of joy when that first try went off without a htich ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4153987.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4153987.page GMT

The dig site spawners still work on lots.

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Could you dupe that building as either an additional club for MBC, and/or set one or two up as apt. bldgs. for additional housing? If you don't like the idea, or it's too difficult to implement, it certainly won't hurt my feelings. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4154244.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4154244.page GMT
Could you dupe that building as either an additional club for MBC, and/or set one or two up as apt. bldgs. for additional housing? If you don't like the idea, or it's too difficult to implement, it certainly won't hurt my feelings. [/quote]


I can build an empty one to use for whatever. That way it can be set up as either club or apartment. Put in the bin to be used over and over for whatever.
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It would take about a week to finish barring any new problems. I am starting it over. . . After the Holidays. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4156640.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4156640.page GMT

I do so want to keep things aesthetically pleasing. A unique environment deserves nothing less

I played again for a bit today. As I suspected, no continuity for the stutters. The first sims day and half of the next were totally free of them, then they returned at about 5:30 pm and went on almost all that night. I then changed households again and the day that I playied in the new household was stutter free. I just don't know what to think about what is causing them. The only consistency is that when they start they remain spaced 6-8 seconds apart.

On one of those days I sent my sim to fill the opportunity at the bookstore for the riddle thing, then had him go to the diner to eat. That gave me a fair amount of time to just sit and watch the area to see if could see any bottlenecks anywhere and there was nothing. A lot of sims came and went with no trouble whatsoever. I didn't see a single instance of a route fail bubble.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4156748.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4156748.page GMT I know access is okay to all the lots.

Maybe because the houses where the domes were- while they were on the world layer and not the lot they did effect the lots.

... but that wouldn't explain the time of night.

Burglars should still be able to enter the lots...]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4157178.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4157178.page GMT
Some of the trees and bulrushes have also fallen to the lower level of Lunar Park. See pic. If the camera is panned more to the left, there are even more trees. I picked them up and moved them a bit to reseat them and it appears to be holding. I wanted you to see the pic of the weeping willow because it is so close to coming down on the stairs.

There is also a pic of a funny happening. The doctor had a vaccination at Lunar Park. He ran there from the hospital and stopped in the parking garage. Result as you see, lol. As people pulled up in cars and they teleported to the garage the good doctor and patient became one with the vehicle

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What does cause that spongy ground? It's almost like the world gets sinkholes. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4160103.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4160103.page GMT

I fixed the stage area. Since I couldn't see anything I just took the tool level terrain and ran it to the right (facing stage) from the center where I knew it had to be level. I then ran it back a tile to the one little half wall. I did send a sim there afterwards and had a jam session on the stage. When I ended it for him, he was able to exit at what used to be the trouble point.

I don't know if that will stop the stutters yet. I had to switch to another world to get some laundromat info for Pary.

SS86, I found a problem in the P.U.R.E. nightclub, too. The foosball table on the first floor is too close to the aquarium window so two sims can't play it. I moved it out slightly and now everything is okay with it. You probably need to do the same thing. I haven't had problems with P.U.R.E. in other worlds but am going to fix it in them anyway.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4160304.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4160304.page GMT
After pausing earlier today to look around different locations, I saw an inactive sim throwing route fail in the same area even though I had not had any trouble with an active sim exiting after leveling the terrain. I noticed on the back of the platform you had a single step on each side so I added another step towards the front before the half wall segment. After doing that, I was able to go the 8 days before I had to quit without any stutters.

The odd thing I am noticing, though, is that the paper shows a family moving away almost daily and the game engine has killed off the toddlers in town. I can't seem to get a stable population. There are primarily adults or elders now, no toddlers, children or even teens and I don't know why. I do have story progression on. I'm wondering if it reflects a need for more housing. Perhaps a certain quota of homes has to be free for moves or something but I just don't know for sure. I'm so used to your worlds filling up quickly and being easy to establish. Hence, I'm perplexed as to what is different with MBC.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4211319.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4211319.page GMT
Good thing I'm remaking it. Not working hard right now. Tis the season to procrastinate.

Thanks for staying with it though.
I haven't installed the newest patch yet so I don't have more apartment shells available. I modified this one to except more doors. I'm going to see how it plays for a while.
Added another floor to the single apartment, too.

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I still have MBC installed but haven't played in it since I last posted I was putting it aside. I really could not find any "smoking gun" as all the things I thought might be the cause of problems appear also in other worlds and don't do anything amiss to those other worlds. I have been playing Matkooskee solidly this week and noted Johnny's dance club doesn't get any patrons, either, other than the paparrazi and the sims I send there. He gets some in his dive bars, but not the dance club. I know his world works solidly despite my game spawning cars like crazy. So the phenomenon we saw in MBC of no patrons in the clubs does not seem to be something you did or didn't do. It's a whole game issue and may be related to population density or some weird thing we have no way of knowing and EA ain't saying.

The theory DD has about there not being enough housing to sustain a sufficient population and therefore killing off toddlers rings a bell about the conversation WR was having in another thread with Prof Plumbbob and others about the game killing off children and toddlers to make room for adults and elders under certain circumstances. So we can theorize there's something in MBC that is triggering this mechanism in the game. I would point the finger at there possibly being too few houses. But there are small worlds out there--I don't generally play small maps anymore. So I can't say--but does anyone who plays small maps notice toddlers and children dying off? I would assume the small worlds with limited housing would show this same problem if it's a matter of there not being enough houses. In many ways this world is a small world despite being on a large map.

At any rate I'll make myself available to test the new version when it's out. I don't any longer think there was anything you did wrong or overlooked, I think something just went wonky in it. Your WW plays fine and so do your other worlds so we KNOW you know how to make a good functioning world. Something just went bad in here and I don't expect to see it in the new version. If we run into the same problems THEN we can think something needs tweaking in the layout or the amenities. But I honestly can't see how MBC is that far different from your other builds that work fine, so I don't think it's a build issue but a gremlin gumming up the works. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4211857.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4211857.page GMT
Seriously though folks I am wondering about that stutter - as a awful lot of people are reporting stutters and lags in just about any hood since the last patch - EA as well as the Custom worlds - and is it possible that what ever is cauing that every where else isn't at least possible as a part of the issue with MBA? I was on tech earlier as well as off and on since the last patches and it seems the number one complaint. I first assumed it is the mass influx of sloppy jalopies but a good deal of those numbers are still complaining even after switch over to the overwatch like i did finally last night. I was getting the stutters trying out Coasterboi's new world before and adter Overwatch. i finally uninstalled that world as I was just not up to trying to track down any issues after looking for 3 hours and not finding any problems, but it was seriously annoying. I then for the heck of it switched over to a brand new Sunset Valley and added just one sims to play with, within no time I was getting a similar but less intense stutter in there as well. Overwatch was not finding very many vehicle at all, so I know it was not a car problem and I also know I had no problem with Sunset Valley before Late Night and this last patch. So what ever foul up EA did it is between LN and the second patch. I was still using Sunset after the first patch as I was playing at finishing the training of a sim that had been born in Sunset Valley that I had planned to try in Late Night when I got it. The game played perfectly fine up until that point.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4211968.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4211968.page GMT
So I just figure I ought to warn you if you use the move feature on a lot, you may bork it. Just hoover over a lot after you place it and may sure you don't get a negative price tag on the thing. If you do, bulldoze it and place a fresh one from the library.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4212043.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4212043.page GMT

Do you think that will cause problems?

I also found a few holes in the camera routing~ nothing big either and which wasn't a problem before but I guess is a big issue now.

I don't know. I give.

The thing is... I will have to start Longview from scratch because this can happen too. I don't wanna have to do this hunt thing again.
All worlds will have to be redone from a new map. It's like Mesa Valley with a twist of lime.

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Oh, my reading comprehension is going bad. So, you mean moving a lot in ET mode with the hand tool. Aw... I'll have to check that. I do move some lots with the hand tool.
I won't any more until it's figured out. I can just as easily move it by the bin.

Thank you.
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Handy for poor sims though I just pretend they're squatters ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4212499.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4212499.page GMT

Okay Rflong, while I was in the hood testing Parys club I tried the regular moo and had no problem. i used the hand - the first i had no problem but the 2nd time I got the negative and lot borkiness. So I tried MOO 5 move times on 5 different lots, no negative. But The moving hand gave me one no problem, 3 negative, and one no problem.

So far it's the chance of the draw with the hand, but with Moo it all seemed fine.

The only problem with that I can't be lazy and just used the hand to move around misplaced WE lots, I'll just have to bull doze them every time and get fresh ones and hope to heaven they go down right the first time.

Just remember to hoover over each newly placed lot if you do use the hand. If you don't see a negative price, as it is an outright minus sign you should be ok, but if you see the minus sign get rid of it.

OK I'm off to bed....]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4212779.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4212779.page GMT And I also must say that since this second LN patch, Ive been having problems that I wasnt before. It does seem a lot laggier and Im getting way more error code 12s then I ever used to get. Its pretty awful. I go for hours playing and then I cant save my work. I have to reset the save file, and start over from my last save. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4215326.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4215326.page GMT
There is no such thing as working for hours without saving much anymore. I save after every important event, as well as once an hour. When I am setting up a hood, I will actually save after working on each house and again after putting a family in a house. I honestly do not get error 12's, knock on wood, but then I learned in the beginning of sims 3 that saving frequently goes wrong in Sims 3 unless you really do it often. I also make 2 saves of every hood and periodically back them both up so if one fails I have a second one that shouldn't fail or to fall back on, because you can't always depend on the games backup file. it is not 100 percent. So if you are doing a lot of work on a particular hood - save often and back up the backup with a second "save as" copy as well.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4216186.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4216186.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4218901.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4218901.page GMT
BTW, Rflong, I do know you don't plan on really getting back to MBC until the holidays are over. I really enjoy the world so continuing to test is fun, not drudgery . I do like the new apartment building and I do think MBC is an excellent candidate for this type of housing. It fits the theme of the world, imho. Let's face it, a moon colony would tend to be compact and I can easily see both underground habitats, or work places, as well as apt. style buildings.

WR, if someone wants to jump all over me for reporting the death of toddlers, they can go for it. Nothing that could be said would refute what I have encountered in this world and I am attaching some pics to offer proof that it does happen. Actually, it turns out that the game engine annihilates the toddler because there is no grave marker. This is the first world that I have experienced this event in. Something is out of kilter but I honestly don't know what. The housing issue was as good a guess as I could make.

The first pic I had actually taken to show Rflong how I put a security gate up to keep paparazzi out. It actually ends up looking a-ok in the world. If you look carefully right behind the leg of Shante Mayer, you will see her toddler, Landon Mayer, sitting on the ground in the doorway. It wasn't too terribly long after this pic was taken that there was a notice in the paper about Landon's death.

The second pic is of the demographics screen of MasterController taken this morning. Note, no pregnancies, babies, children or teens as I previously reported. After I took this pic I changed back to the Mayer household to see what the family tree would show. Note only the heads of mom and dad on the UI but the family tree looks like a toddler should be present in the household. The pic of the toddler is not grayed out as is customary with deceased sims. BTW, Shante is now an elder and her husband turned to elder later that day. Bizarre, to say the least.

The last pic is for Rflong. I placed a 64x32 lot and put the Banzai Lounge building from the bin out towards the junkyard and cemetary. I wanted to see if the world continued to run smoothly with a second club in place and so far it has. The club construction doesn't look terribly out of place either so I thought I'ld show you where I put it. I use Inge's lot sizes mod that allows me to add additional lot sizes I want for placement with the world editor. I usually use it just for the 30x40 size EA left out but every now and then it comes in handy for me for not used frequently sizes I want to set up

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I have actually seen the deaths of both babies and toddlers in worlds the size of Sunset Valley start when the population (that's the main population now, not the homeless or the service sims that don't live in the hoods, but the actual sims you can go visit in houses - when that pop reaches about 143 - 146 I'd start getting toddler and newborn deathes. The game does not care if it living babies or ghost babies because My Agnes Crumblebottom lost 1 newborn ghost babies and 1 living toddler baby who were originally 2 sets of twins.


Actually ghost babies do have a tombstone, but the fact the game never leaves any tombstone for the babies because from what Ben Bell said is newborns and toddler technically cannot be killed because they can't "haunt" there is no mechanics in the game for babyies and toddlers to float around, go in and out of graves - they have to be helped from their cribs when alive and so forth so when the game "kills" them they just vanish period - leaving nothing as the game destroys their files - with the exception of the family portrait. Because babies and toddlers can't technically die at our hands, EA never actually provided a grey out for them - which is confusing to a lot of simmers who think the babies are just lost or invisible when they are indeed gone. EA mucked that thing up royally, they should not even allow the game to kill off the babies period.


But yeah that Prof Plumbbob got on my case royally. I even provided a copy of what the sims team said about the pop control in the game, and he had the nerve to call me stubborn, arrogant, and not knowing what I was talking about. It was in a thread asking our opinion on a town with 500 lots. I specified that as one of the chief reasons it would be pointless, and Plumbbob comes in there and basically called me a liar. What made me laugh was he claims I made him look like a liar. I give up, I guess I am not intitled to give my opinion or include things I have seen and heard over and over again on the tech boards. I also guess the Sims team don't know what they are talking about either.

Oh well, when I saw that post of yours I just couldn't help myself. I found it funny only because I had just spent the evening before debating it with him.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4219167.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4219167.page GMT
Don't worry about it, WR. I believe you... We believe you.

It's the strangest thing. I will be adding a lot more houses...


While I haven't really worked on any of the worlds I have messed with them whenever I get on the computer.

So, I have stopped working on Longview because I know I will start with a new map now. Just because of this.
And I have touched up and terraformed the Moon base a little. Tonight I didn't feel like getting into CAW because my computer is acting up again. I need to check with NVidia to see if their is a new driver.

Anyway... I felt like building and have worked on the Crate house- the larger ones, and a new house for my Eccentric Sim. . . I thought something like a Steampunk/Old Earth mover funky house. ~ Tell me what you think~

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I also like the look of the stacked boxes looking one. It almost looks like each floor could move independently of each other if need be. Cool looking - both of them. The earth mover is my favorite though.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4219466.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4219466.page GMT I love both the steampunk house and the crate house. Want, want, want, want

I don't know whether you realize it or not but one of the things that really makes you stand out as a world creator is that when you are faced with a stumbling block during testing, you not only fix it, you end up with some sort of tremendous world improvement. You and Kiwi_Tea have this in common. That stumbling block seems to get both your creative juices flowing even more strongly. Where some would throw in the towel and walk away, you manage to look at it as a creative opportunity and I have great admiration for that.

I keep waiting to see WW featured because it is so amazing. I dearly love that world. Oh, lol, that's another thread.

WR, feel free to direct Prof Plumbob to this thread. It happened and as you can see from the demographics screen there is not even an overabundance of occupants in my town. Of course, I would have believed you even if I hadn't finally seen it with my own eyes. What you said about babies and toddler's files being obliterated because they can't haunt makes perfect sense.

Okay, hopefully one of you can help me with a game question that I have. After the party for Ricky, a vampire sim clutched her throat at the front of the lot and died. That was interesting but I'm unsure what to do with her remains. Both a pile of ash and a grave marker are present, both bearing her name, of course. Since this is the first vampire I've had die I don't know if both the ash pile and grave marker need to be preserved. The only option on the ash pile is clean up. Will she come back as a ghost if I do that since there will still be a grave marker?

Here's a pic in case you haven't seen what I am referring to. The marker is obvious, the small pile to the right of it are the ashes
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This was a cool world and I don't think there was another like it so I really wanted to get it back up.
I do get more hesitant when things go wrong. Mostly because I don't know why. Either try and redo to fix it or search the internet for help and read up on everything and Then redo it anyway.
I'm sure it's a combination of this world moving files from two computers, updates, my errors and expansion with coding changes on most things.
It's got to be a whole combination of things.

Once I'm done with the Holidays I'm going to MATY and any other sites and read up on what they know about CAW.

I have all the Ambitions lots, redoing all the Base game lots... working on more houses- already have twice as many but mostly from placing a few of the same houses.

What size lot are you playing?
Pary said she'd make a club for this world. Will be great since I'm not so up on them.
A Science lab type club would be excellent.

~no idea about Vampires myself...

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Oh, oh, btw, you may have known this but I didn't. The mail box and/or trash can seems to affect where the car for the carpool stops. When I built the Faire house under the dome at 20 Crater something, I moved the mailbox and trashcan more to the front of the dome because they were so far to one side it was a nuisance getting to them. Much to my surprise, instead of the carpool vehicle stopping way to the side as it first did, it now stops in the front of the dome. I've been meaning to play around with the placement of them in other worlds to be sure I didn't dream this association up but haven't done so as yet. There really isn't any other reason, though, for the carpool vehicle to have changed pick up and drop off location.

LOL, you don't fail...just temporary setbacks. I also agree that most likely the redo is because of a combination of things. It can't hurt for you to check other sites to see if you can pick up a hint or two but my gut feeling is that you and Kiwi_Tea have more in the way of hints to give out than you'll find available to you. I also don't mean to slight other creators here. I have worlds done by more than just you two that I love. You two just sort of seem to stay on the cutting edge of advancements with use of the CAW tool. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4219615.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4219615.page GMT
But that is defintely interesting.

About Plumbbob, I am not about to bring him here, he'll just see my posts as me being arrogant again or something else equally as snotty. I don't think I have ever been arrogant in my life, sort of weird to be looked upon as such. But thanks for the offering DD. I guess I just don't have the fight in me right now. Been doing some Christmas eve baking in between posts all day, and are frankly just p o o p e d.. I get to stir and repeat just about everyday between now and Thursday. Oh jeez, just remembered I forgot to take one of my meds.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4219672.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4219672.page GMT
Since the vamp was leaving a birthday party, I guess the possibility of her having eaten a piece of cake exists but unless it was a second serving, she took a piece of cake then set it down on the floor and said she had to go.

She did come back as a ghost. I saw her accidentally before she left the lot because my active sim was returning from a club and apparently, his taxi got in her way of departing. What clued me that something was up was the sound of a beating heart. Vamp ghosts are definitely cool looking. The ghost is dark with a pulsing red about where a heart would be. Even the grave marker is darker in color then the normal markers are.

I never saw her return to the marker, though, and had the female sim of the house clean up the ashes the next day. She also died that day so I had her husband take the Vamp's marker to the cemetary and don't know if I will ever see her again or not, since ghosts don't seem to hang around cemetaries anymore. I am posting a pic of the ghost for you to see but it is a sight that has to actually be seen in game to be fully appreciated. The pic doesn't give you the sound of the beating heart.

Rflong, stutters are still gone. Adding the single step to the front sides of the platform in Lunar Park appears to have ended them for good. However, there is another problem area in the park but it doesn't seem to cause stutters, at least for now. Facing the platform the right front of the fountain before the flower bed starts has something present that sims don't want to walk across. Usually there are insects walking around in that area so maybe it has something to do with a spawner. I've only seen sims approach the area from the left of it, left if facing the platform, but they all throw the route fail bubble and turn around to head in the other direction. I had given 2 of them the direction to join a jam session but the action dropped from their queues when they turned around.

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~ I'll have to go into CAW to see the old park. I don't have it any more but I will look.

This is the newest- The fountain will block a little...*I did place steps all the way around it with a fence in the back of the stage. I have had a Sim in there and she had no problem reaching each instrument. ~ so far.

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Edit : You'd like a science themed club? I can do that. I'm a little wary after the FailCat club, but I'll put it up for testing first. 40x30 we decided on, right?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4225692.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4225692.page GMT

~Lol, Pary. I uploaded it.
The funny thing is~ it shows it having the patterns I specifically removed. I doubt they will install because I had it show with your club once. So strange. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4225732.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4225732.page GMT Edit : You'd like a science themed club? I can do that. I'm a little wary after the FailCat club, but I'll put it up for testing first. 40x30 we decided on, right?[/quote]

Yes- I would love a Science geek type club. Sounds like a good size. Smaller or larger, whichever you want.
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I didn't realize you put the steampunk house in your studio! I've downloaded and rec'd it. It's on a 30x20 lot and I don't recall any lots that size in MBC. Looks like I'll put one in via world editor, right? Can you give me an idea of where you added it so I can get it to play as closely as possible to what will be experienced in the new version? Never mind, looking back at your pics I see that you put it on the one hill top lot, so I'll put it there. I deleted the patterns from the .s3p with Custard since you said you took them out. If I suspect pattern wonkiness after installing, I'll let you know.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4226037.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4226037.page GMT

See down into the town...

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I saw some patterns used that look like some of the same HELS patterns I used the latest house I built for MBC. I wish patterns would transfer freely. They ought to, since EA didn't build in any coding to let us be able to discern what patterns are from which EP or SP. It makes me crazy!

You know...I'm not touching that ridiculous topic about the 500 lots or whatever it was. Pescado settled that **** on MATY quite some time ago. WR has observed it firsthand and we know how much time WR logs playing the game and putting it through its paces. It's just a known fact, jack. I can't understand anyone questioning it at this point. That's how the game works. The question is--what other iterations and nuances of the phenomenon exist. Obviously MBC has its own flavor of the phenomenon.

EDIT: Okay I went back and read that crazy 500 lot thread. Okay I can see how and why Prof. Plumbob questions it. I still think he missed the discussion where the game kills off the young'uns and leaves ghost towns. Why it doesn't do that on his one town he has that has a huge pop, well I can't say. I don't know his playing style. Everyone can get away with almost anything in their sim towns once in a while. I get away with all kinds of stuff with SP and aging turned off that blows up in my face the moment I turn it all back on. I wouldn't personally have the confidence to declare all contrary arguments null and void based on my observations of one single town in my inventory. I think Prof. goes out on a perilous limb doing that. I think he's just been lucky. I know and have read too many ghost town stories to doubt WR's side of the argument. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4227204.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4227204.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4227208.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4227208.page GMT

Thank you. :blush: The world needed some abandoned equipment and weird houses. Wonder if there are any more in my head.



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Look up the word in the Urban dictionary and you will understand. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4227349.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4227349.page GMT

I just remembered about the vampires--I had two of mine die. They were central characters so I exited without saving. The one burnt up in the sun...I did see a pile of ash but no grave marker--could have missed it though. The other one clutched his throat and died--that was because he didn't feed in time. There were not friends around he could drink from and for some reason he didn't help himself to plasma juice at the fridge at the house he was visiting for a party. So I think the vampire that fails to drink plasma in time dies clutching their throat. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4227403.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4227403.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4229314.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4229314.page GMT

DD, I know from using Twallan's Mastercontroller that vamps can die from thirst, so I'm wondering if that's what happened to your vamp and that's why she clutched her throat. Neat pics, btw.

I have said this before, but LN totally messed up sims' routing. Even more than it was already messed up, I mean. You can observe this most easily when you play a sim family with babies and toddlers in the the house. I was playing in RW's mint house in WW and I got exhausted trying to get a sim to teach a toddler to walk even after directing them here there and everywhere. The sims walk down the stairs and the toddlers go sit at the top of the stairs and then of course nothing happens because it's not possible to pick up the toddler that way! I was finally able to have her just pick up the toddler after directing him in a bedroom and then carry him downstairs to teach him to walk. I realize that it was a small house but this was even more messed up than usual and it's completely ridiculous how terrible the routing is in this game. I have to wonder if this is the reason there is so much lag in just about every world now.

ETA" Yeah, SummerSong86 ninja'd me about the vamp death.

Also, I love the new buildings, RFlong7, they're looking fabulous! The only other thing I'll add is that I'm pretty sure Pescado has said that population depends on your computer specs and how much processing power it has.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4229785.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4229785.page GMT
Hey, it's good to have another confirmation that vamps die of thirst. I'm only one observer and I could have been interpreting what I saw all wrong. I'm glad you posted on that as well, HS3.

I concur--there are additional routing issues I never saw before. Bistro routing seems more prone to failure now. My sims queued up to eat there don't always make it in to eat. I see lots of odd little inexplicable failures that require me to micromanage my sims more than ever. I see this in every world I've played so far, so it's not just a world issue. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4230492.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4230492.page GMT

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I hope I didn't include any Stuff Pack stuff. I need to uninstall them soon to make sure. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4319863.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4319863.page GMT

I'll sneak in as much testing time as I can while my daughter is still home from school. I'll do the best I can for ya!

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Putting it in what will be its "native" (lol ) environment should do the trick.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4322218.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4322218.page GMT

Thank you all so much.... I'm sure I won't be sitting here and jumping any time someone posts here.

Not that many will- it's not going to be a "popular" world since it's different.

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Here are the Messingers. They were sent to the moon as part of the witness protection program. Darren's uncle is in the criminal career in Bridgeport and he saw something he wasn't supposed to...well, I'd tell you more, but then the International Spy responsible for putting them on the moon would have to keel 'ya.

Darrin Messinger, his wife Miranda, and daughter Avery.

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I moved them into a dome house, the one that has 'Family' in the name. It has a wall that's missing wallpaper in the bluegreen child's bedroom and also a couple of spots of paneling near the front door. Easily fixed and obviously very minor!

Miranda is a family oriented sim, so she stuck by her man. She is responsible for the baby bump you see in the pic below, as she gets to know Water_Cat.

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Darrin had a wish to visit the graveyard so I sent him there. He caught himself a termite, and met a few sims. Sitting is Clifford Vereday (a greenish sim I created for this game) and an EA sim who's name I forget! Oh. Did I mention that this is a very cool lot!?

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I sent Miranda to visit Founder's Park after the twins were born. She met Clay World at the park.

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Since it was mentioned in another thread ealier today, I also had to see if I could take an overhead shot. It worked!

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I'll keep testing but so far, other than the hardly worth reporting missing wallpaper, there haven't been any issues to report. Fabulous world, Rflong7! I look forward to a version populated with "interesting characters". ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4324836.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4324836.page GMT
I'm SO EXCITED that I stumbled upon this thread while doing some searches on the EA forums for another topic. I've posted about this very same CAW idea I had on MTS forums awhile back, asking if anyone had done something like it, but no one had and I found nothing like it in searches of worlds on the Exchange.

I've been begging my hubby for literally months to build me a world like this - something alien and futuristic with houses inside of domes and community lots connected by subways (once we heard LN was adding a subway system).

I was honestly just about to try the CAW tool out for myself, but was leery of all the bugginess I had been reading about since Late Night was released (pathing and terrain issues).

The only thing I was going to do different from what you have is my world would have no roads. I know this 'breaks' a few things, like children not going to school, no service sims, etc... but I didn't mind that because I use awesomemod anyways. I thought roads would break the immersion factor I was going for: a non-terraformed world that does not have breathable air outside the domes. Moving from dome to dome with subways would be the mode of transport and walls at the base level would prevent Sims from exiting that way.

But I'm rambling. Sorry. This is such a great idea! I am interested in helping test your world but I use so many mods and custom content it would likely require a clean install from scratch for me to play it without other factors involved in causing issues

Anyways, thanks so much for building this world and putting a lot of effort into it so far! Maybe in the future you will consider uploading a plain version with no lots or roads for me ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4324912.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4324912.page GMT

~Hi, Tangie- What a great idea and nice Sims!
Good catch, thanks. I did use a uniform house style for the Starters so each house will probably be missing the same thing. :blush:
It's in the idea of modular imitation housing-quick and efficient.

~Hi, Envie. I'm glad you like it.

This is an older world of mine I'm trying to get back up. I used to have the old domes but they don't work with Ambitions and having to click on the ground-the old domes didn't allow it. The new ones do so I am trying again.

I did have the subways in the housing domes but I found Sims would use any subway, even in houses they didn't own. This would be weird since the view of the house was kept blue and the lot would be a blue hole in the ground.

But, since you don't want roads that would be different. I just thought since you don't want roads you could use my height map of this world. That way you could put in your own lots. It is a CAW file but it could be fun for you.

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"Anna Sim" would be a perfect colonist candidate for MBC - she is, as far as I know, one of a kind - a half simbot, half sim girl! (yes she really has simbot stats and eats scrap, etc)...

http://twistedenvie.blogspot.com/2010/12/anna-sim-androsim.html

Here is her download link on the exchange:

http://www.thesims3.com/assetDetail.html?assetId=3543677

As you can see, I am very much into strange sim worlds and creations I may upload my own favorite dome lot - my "Eco-dome" science lab. I need to go check it for bugs as I haven't played that lot since pre-ambitions.

I love alien sims, love simbots and now (thanks to mod ability) love my androsims (Simdroids) too

Good luck with your testing - your world is anticipated with much excitement by Anna and her people!

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4325211.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4325211.page GMT ~Hi, Envie. I'm glad you like it.

This is an older world of mine I'm trying to get back up. I used to have the old domes but they don't work with Ambitions and having to click on the ground-the old domes didn't allow it. The new ones do so I am trying again.

I did have the subways in the housing domes but I found Sims would use any subway, even in houses they didn't own. This would be weird since the view of the house was kept blue and the lot would be a blue hole in the ground.

But, since you don't want roads that would be different. I just thought since you don't want roads you could use my height map of this world. That way you could put in your own lots. It is a CAW file but it could be fun for you.

http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/235502.page The height map link is near the bottom of the post if you want it. [/quote]

Oh Thank you! That could be a perfect starter project for me to learn CAW

And again, thanks so much for making this type of world. I was so surprised no one had tried it yet. Glad you are working at it and I intend to play your finished version too.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4325245.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4325245.page GMT
"Anna Sim" would be a perfect colonist candidate for MBC - she is, as far as I know, one of a kind - a half simbot, half sim girl! (yes she really has simbot stats and eats scrap, etc)...

http://twistedenvie.blogspot.com/2010/12/anna-sim-androsim.html

Here is her download link on the exchange:

http://www.thesims3.com/assetDetail.html?assetId=3543677

As you can see, I am very much into strange sim worlds and creations I may upload my own favorite dome lot - my "Eco-dome" science lab. I need to go check it for bugs as I haven't played that lot since pre-ambitions.

I love alien sims, love simbots and now (thanks to mod ability) love my androsims (Simdroids) too

Good luck with your testing - your world is anticipated with much excitement by Anna and her people!

[/quote]

Thanks, it would be great to have lots of different Sims. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4325637.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4325637.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4331691.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4331691.page GMT
Oh, nice- a new card. Good luck! And Happy New Year. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4334285.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4334285.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4334390.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4334390.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4334898.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4334898.page GMT
Hi,

http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/238319.page

[quote=ctx43801]

This world looks totally awesome. I've been wanting something "different" for the aliens I'm making, and this world will be perfect. Can't wait - well, obviously, I'll have to! - until it's finished. Thanks for all your hard work![/quote]

Hi,

Thanks.

You know... you could play it now. Help me test...
But either way, I hope it's done and working just right soon. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4334934.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4334934.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4335044.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4335044.page GMT
We all have a certain way of playing no matter what we try to do differently, it's why it's great to have a lot of testers playing a world. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4335488.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4335488.page GMT
I thought I should come and tell you my results after playing it very briefly with a couple of no CC sims and then spending several hours redesigning one of the dome housing lots into a community apartment space instead of a single family house.

Your world works just fine with awesomemod and several other mods I have (Twallans relativity, autonomous woohoo, everyone cleans, etc) plus all the crazy custom content I have. I had no crashing to desktop - which I typically get only if I've got a memory leak issue, a bugged out sim, or a buggy mod.

There is, however, the occasional stuttering going on that a couple of your other testers mentioned. This was me playing it with only one sim in the world, she had no custom content, and she was my pathing tester for my building. Utilizing awesomemod, I prevented random sim spawning other than npc's. I also ran the 'fixall' command Pescado's mod works wonders on many bad issues related to sims actions, seed/gem spawning, etc. I have a brand new PC I just got in Nov. as an early xmas present from my hubby and it has a top of the line processor, video card and extra memory so its not machine perf. related either.. Other CAW worlds I play, even with 'overstuffed' houses (I've put up to 14 in a house using awesomod without performance issues)The world is very slow to load and takes a long time to fill in textures. I believe it could be a terrain issue. Your other issues with the buildings mentioned by others could have been terrain elevation collisions.

Also worth noting - I've always had problems with custom worlds where a rabbithole venue (like town hall) has been buried underground to hide it beneath a custom building to fit the theme of the world (as you have done so creatively). To test that, I went into build/buy mode on your settlement center (town hall) but did not experience a lot of stuttering or movement lag on the topside, only when underneath at the actual community building. I think for my own personal use I will likely use modded custom rabbitholes (rugs etc) from MTS - one mod I have not yet tried yet, haha.

I'm going to use the tools avail in awesomemod to test some more things. I can tell it to insta-spawn a set number of Sims and see if that causes stuttering while they populate and then kill them all off again (destroyallhumans ftw!) to see if stuttering returns with more spawning of sims. I'm not sure, does CAW allow you to set a population cap?

My last thought to you would be to check all of your seed/gem/etc spawners to make sure they are not bugged or causing any issues. I know your other testers said they did confirm spawns. I have found that too many spawners overlapping in a small space (happened in a junkyard of mine) can cause some stuttering and loading issues on that lot.

In closing, I would say the best thing to do would be nuke everything 'unusual' in the game's terrain (underground venues, subways, etc) and try play-testing it that way to eliminate one thing at a time from the equation.

I may do that myself if I really get some time in the next couple of weeks once things here settle down from holidays. I want to use moonbase to test my androsim breeding program (laugh) and so I may create a simplified version of your town there, without a lot of venues and subways and other stuff.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4339716.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4339716.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340030.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340030.page GMT
Envie42, could the problem you are having with stuttering be caused by the apartment that you made? Also, did you add any highrises to the world? Those can also be buggy. Oh, and I never take out my CC when tesitng UNLESS I have issues, then I take them out to make sure they are not the problem. I'm also using AM along with lots of other CC at the moment and like I said, I'm not having any issues in Moon Base.
]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340034.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340034.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340059.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340059.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340604.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340604.page GMT [/quote]

The apartment I'm making isn't really a true apartment, per se - its a freestyle set of 4 'pods' I am creating from scratch inside one of the domes. They are futuristic apartments, but really just 4 small 10x10 size buildings on the lot. I wanted a community living space where a larger group of sims (singles and couples) could live in their individual dwellings, but all on the same lot. EA really needs to create an apartment life EP for me haha! And no, no skyscrapers added. There's already two in the game rflong put there. Maybe remove those in testing too.

That's the only thing I've altered - ooooh waaait a second. I did add a lot of mine (ecodome) from my bin. I better go delete that sucker. I used Builder's World DIY (from ModtheSims) to clean up an old dome lot I had from way back when the game first started and make it playable. It's the old dome style, but the problem rflong described with those (unable to click on floor) is fixable with some changes to the way elevation used to be done. Basements work for it and give the ability to use it properly.

That being said, I'll remove it and start over with a clean copy. I will refrain from building inside the world for now and stick to my editing world (DIY island)Still not going to remove my mods though
]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340942.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4340942.page GMT That said, I would like to make one small suggestion. This is more of an aesthetic observation, rather than a technical one. Overall, I really like the bones of your buildings. They are exactly what one would expect to see on a Moon colony. The only suggestion I have, is when you do your final finishes, you avoid using "wood" finishes. On a "real" world that had no naturally-occuring vegetation, things like wood panelling, flooring, etc would have to be shipped in. In this case, that would be from Earth. That would make the cost of your "starter" homes prohibited for all but the Bill Gates of the universe. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4341577.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4341577.page GMT
Hi WR, I don't know what happened to my reply to you - the forums are acting strange today. I got a double post of my reply to someone else, and my reply to you is gone!

I just wanted to add that you're definitely right, it could be my mods afterall even though I have had no problem with using them in any other CAW player created worlds so far.

I think the feedback I was trying to give was that I played it without any large population of sims, so hopefully the population or sims issues aren't any factor to this world. I did go back and re-read the 12 pages leading up to the newest version because I think I missed where testers were now having no problems with stuttering.

My stuttering could just be from world spawners kicking in. I've only had that happen in one other world - ehaugh58's Fort Sim - its a huge world and took a good while to finally load all textures, spawners, etc. Unfortunately CAW seems limited by world size and layers/textures because even me using a very high end PC am having serious taxing of processor power. I can't imagine those using lower end machines being able to play a lot of the detailed lots / words esp with as much as Ambitions and LN have added (careers, ten times more venues / lots, etc)]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4341630.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4341630.page GMT
I agree with you on this too. Though its just aesthetics as you said, I think the immersion / realism of the world would be better with all residential housing being the futuristic materials look of some of the other lots. I think maybe rflong just threw some simple premade houses into the domes during her testing phase, or maybe its meant to be more 'earth-like' inside the domes (meaning materials and looks of homes on earth) - but I think those would be very high end, expensive lots and materials. More luxurious accomodations to have an earth-like replica to live in on the moon.


I'm creating a pod / community living structure(s) lot now that is within a dome. I may upload it to the exchange as a separate alternative 60x60 residential lot for this world.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4341676.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4341676.page GMT And, thinking along those same lines, in my game I plan on restricting the dome homes to my super wealthy sims (like smugglers!) - or members of the government, military or scientific communities. Having the ability to have your own garden on a colony world like the moon, would, again cost a ton of cash, since plants would have to be flown in. Or you'd have to have access to established vegetation - which would probably be limited to the afore-mentioned 3 careers. Governments do love to impose their rules! So, I won't be letting my poorer simss - or those in the 3 fields I've mentioned, with less than a level 7, or maybe even an 8, in their field - move into a dome. I know, I'm ****-retentive! That's what happens when you come from a detail-oriented background!
Anyway, love your world so far. Will continue to play and if any problems occur, will tell you. I haven't made any changes to anything - just playing it the way you made it. BTW, love your steampunk lots. DO NOT change them!!!! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4341726.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4341726.page GMT

Thanks so much for testing and the suggestions.

I was very surprised about any stuttering or freezes. I would be interested to know if you could test it without any mods or CC- Envie42? After removing the cache files too. Since you are the only one who had stutters and freezes. It's so strange... I would love to figure out what happened.

This world has two textures. The base gray and the lighter sand so that isn't an issue.
I don't think the basements are an issue either. They are part of the game. I have no idea why it would stutter this time... Most of the spawners on the world map are gems/metals/meteors (70), the insect/fish and seeds are on specific lots so wouldn't render until your Sims are on those lots.

I have had past issues with updates and worlds not working. It's happened before that a world would have routing problems from one day to the next so the first world not working right away is something I usually expect.

~Oh, the wood... who said it was real? It may look like wood but it sure doesn't taste like wood.

I did consider using all metals but I think plastics are closer to a good weight load and synthetic woods would be better and lighter. Old crates are recycled also.

No, the houses were built inside the domes and not just a dome placed over some houses. I had to know they would fit properly.
*No lots were brought over from the old world to the new yet the floor plans are the same because I really liked them- such as the Crates/Alien housing...

The dome houses were to let the newer Sim with some importance have an easier transition. The crates or small domes are for the labor/big families with less influence/cash or position.

....
~I have found a whole row of lots without addresses so I will be working on those and the paint.

~I really did check all the routing around the world spawners- I know it's a lot for a world but I wanted a lot of Meteors around the world.

Thanks again
~No problem, HS and Woot~Reg tried it out.




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Thanks so much for testing and the suggestions.

I was very surprised about any stuttering or freezes. I would be interested to know if you could test it without any mods or CC- Envie42? After removing the cache files too. Since you are the only one who had stutters and freezes. It's so strange... I would love to figure out what happened. [/quote]

I got a little sidetracked with my "colony condo" dome lot idea and am working on that in a separate building world so I have not played yours this evening. But I will! I've got to get a new version of awesomemod tomorrow anyways so I think I'll go ahead and remove my Mods/package files and save them elsewhere and load up your world and give it a spin for you to see if there's any difference for me. I'll let you know!

I like the simplicity of your starter houses - even if they have the look/feel of real wood etc, its not a game-breaker by any means. I think different people have different ideas about what an alien planet (or moon) would look like for new colonists.

Besides, at the rate I'm going, my condos are going to end up being quite pricey... I have never been good at decorating cheaply haha.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4343654.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4343654.page GMT
Thank you so much.

I understand about getting into building something. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4343820.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4343820.page GMT
I have a semi-fresh install, meaning I didn't uninstall and reinstall my EP's and SP's, but I did remove my existing The Sims 3 folder and let the game generate a new one. I then copied over my libraries and Saved Sims folders. No mods/packages folder in my game this time. I don't have my other worlds or saves installed. So this is as clean as I can make it for now. Let the testing begin! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4343962.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4343962.page GMT

Hope the dinner of Ramen was good.
Thanks, that's a lot of trouble to go through to test the world. I don't have any mods installed yet so it's no trouble for me.

I did reinstall my Store stuff just so I could use it to test.

~I did add the addresses to the lots. I can't believe I missed them.
~I haven't painted yet but it's on the list... where'd the list go? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344053.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344053.page GMT
But she did finally in extreme aspiration finally give me a teeny, tiny hiccup after laboring smooth as silk from 3 pm this afternoon until a little after midnight. (I did let it just run all by itself for 45 minutes while I made us a light dinner at 8 pm, then ate my dinner at my desk). So I will first tell you the hiccup spot and keep in mind this world had been worked for 3 Sims full weeks - I started with 1 Sims right from CAS. By the time I was done playing the game had generated all the needed service sims and 6 good size families. Also midway into the Sims 2nd week I added 10 more households of YA Sims, mostly singles with a few pairs of sibblings of actual skilled Sims - so that way I covered all the different kinds of housing and jobs - I think I got them all including the highrise and not a single one of the additions that played for another Sims week and a half had any housing , routing, or job problems. They used all buildings, gathered at all the shopping areas and or parks, went to work, went to the clubs and the eating areas, as well as ate at the clubs too.

The one who found my hiccup was the first Sims I put in and basically played through all this testing today.

So keep in mind this might have been an issue of me just being in the constantly growing world a bit too long with out a reboot as I saw no problem for 9 full hours of hard checking, but my Sims was in a sour state of mind and just begging for something fun to do - poor guy I ran him ragged for 3 sims weeks so he'd barely had time to grab a bite of food at any of the clubs, and it was closing time - so finally he had a day off from work and decided to send him to a concert at the stadium he had been begging for (by the way he occupies the domed house - the small one over next to the criminal building) so he did his thing and ran down to the subway to go to the stadium - now listen up -

he came out of the subway staying on the same side of the sidewalk where the subway is located and along the way you have three of those solar panels on the ground well as he passed the second solar panel the game did do a slight hesitation - just and eye blink, and again when he got to the third one which is also where he turns and crossed the street to go to the stadium, it did the same thing, just ever so slightly.

I found it odd it did it right in front of the solar panels. I also determined it is okay on the sidewalk on the stadium side of the road where there are none of the solar panels, as after the concert I had him run back to the subway to go home, staying on this side of the street and it was again smooth as silk.



Next is a wee bit of an oddity that I have never seen in a world, but here goes: after the concert was over and before I sent the sim home, he came out I saw one of my added celebrity Sims so I sent my sim to go meet her. I click on her and get this I get a choice of greet the celebrity or learn a song. I say "You say what" So I click it again, it says the same thing, so for the heck of it I choose sing a song and get the choice of my sim learning one of the two songs from Egypt from the celebrity. It is odd, as that sim is also one of my sims - the one that wears the WA adventure gear but she has never been to egypt. I had planned to take her to egypt which is why she has that outfit on for everyday use, but the fact she hasn't been there and should not have known the songs to start with baffled me, as much as the fact by all right my sim should have gotten the "Impress the Celeb" offer, but he got the song or the greet the celebrity offer. All I can figure is the game was tired and needed a reboot because I first got those two little freezes on the way to the stadium, and then this weird reaction after the concert. By the way I did have the celeb teach him both songs, and then my sim got the right response for him to impress the celeb - which he did easily. Finally he was quite tired and I wanted to make sure the lags were not on this side of the road, so I had him say good bye and followed him home with no further incidents.

I will go back and do further testing tomorrow afternoon and will check out that area with a fresh boot, but if anyone else wants to check out that area it would be good too.

Oh and Rflong the game moved in a Vamp in one of the six families it moved in - would you believe the house you actually have listed as the Vamp house. I have not gone in that house yet, but I have gone into the Red Family House where I moved a couple of YA sims. I just thought that was funny the game put a Vamp in a house named Vamp house.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344721.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344721.page GMT

By the way don't go sweating wood/no wood look. If somebody doesn't like it, they can change it to anything they want - RIGHT PEOPLE!!!!! Rflong should not have to be worried about meeting everyones likes and dislikes for something as trivial as paint on walls, furn, etc. It is not like EA gave her much appropiately space age paints and furniture to use, so give the girl a break and when we have helped her make this world perfect, then paint it the way you like it. Some people are always going to find something they don't like as far as designs and colors go, I assure you I almost immediately redo two thirds of EA's paint jobs on lots and houses with every new ep, but I surely don't go complaining to EA that my taste does not agree with theirs. As a well known tester of worlds, I can tell you the creators want you to report oddities and problems, maybe even add a suggestion for a new style of house or even a sim, but color and furnishings are really something we only need to be concerned about once the project is considered finished, the testing is all done, and the world is ready to go. Remember anything you don't like is changeable, but there is a difference between not liking something, and the world having a problem. It's the problems we really need to look for and concentrate on so we can help Rflong.

I am not trying to be mean or a b u t t - i n - ski, but I have tested worlds since world testing started and know what it is the creators want and need to know. Rflong is a sweety and will never complain, and she tries hard to please everyone, but she shouldn't have to. Look at all the work she does just to share with us. So please people, even though Rflong won't say it, I will - concentrate on helping us all have a great playing world by finding anything wrong that cannot be painted or decored away. Much appreciated.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344793.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344793.page GMT
Sigh...such a beautiful world. I really love what you've done with it. This is the best iteration yet! I'm sorry you've had to work so hard to redo it but man, it's a feast for the eyes and just blows me away with the imagination that went into it.

I've had my sim running for just one of her sim days so far. No hiccups or stutters yet. She befriended a neighbor (she's in Steampunk and her neighbor is in a little dome near Steampunk).

I had the world set up initially and I decided my test sim the first time around annoyed me. Why, I have no idea, she just got on my nerves somehow--I think it's because she kept running to the tv, so that's why I'm only on Day One with this sim. But the other sim, the annoying one--I'd tried about 3 different households and when I got to her, for some reason she instantly shot up in the Stylist Career. I'd never had her employed nor did I select her for a career so I guess the game had made her a stylist and put her at a very high level and in the blink of an eye the game put up several promotion messages for her in rapid succession. I'd never had this happen to me before so it was interesting. I mention it in case it's a game oddity and not normal after all. Anyway I exited without saving and redid the town with a different set of sims all that I made myself. Just to be sure I didn't have any oddities as a result of something someone did for SOCL. (I had SOCL sims in the first test run).

She's having rotten luck with her date, lol, but other than that it's okay. I'll see if I can recreate the path WR took and check out the solar panels. I am not sure yet what I'll be doing next.

I have families with kids in the game but haven't tried testing those yet. I'm just getting started. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344810.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344810.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344815.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344815.page GMT
I wrote about it in my post about the game the day with all the pictures. I also had it happen in Barnacle Bay to a pirate no less, and quickly had him quitting that job. I want pirates to either pirate or fish, not be a stylists. In fact it also did a simular thing with a guy the game put in architecture as well, even though the guy did not have a single job listed in his portfolio - also in BB, so it is obviously happening with Ambitions careers in all worlds, user and EA. At least that doesn't seem harmful like some of their other tweaks have been. They need to do a little untweaking and put stuff back like it was.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344866.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344866.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344917.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344917.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344942.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4344942.page GMT ^^]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345059.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345059.page GMT
I would think colonists would probably like a bit of home especially some wood texture on the moon. A lot of this world has a steampunk theme and the wood goes well.

Did anyone else have trouble getting into the club The Abandoned Car? My poor sim's date ended abruptly when they couldn't get past the velvet ropes because there was no bouncer. He might not have generated yet. I had to take a break from testing so I'm only on day 2 of my sim's time in this world.

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Thank you. ^_^]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345121.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345121.page GMT sighs.... getting download as we speak though. TY ^^ ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345136.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345136.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345138.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345138.page GMT
I would think colonists would probably like a bit of home especially some wood texture on the moon. A lot of this world has a steampunk theme and the wood goes well.

Did anyone else have trouble getting into the club The Abandoned Car? My poor sim's date ended abruptly when they couldn't get past the velvet ropes because there was no bouncer. He might not have generated yet. I had to take a break from testing so I'm only on day 2 of my sim's time in this world.

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I know new world sometimes takes a bit for everything to start up when new started. But forget how long. 3 SIM days I think for some stuff. Like graveyard spawning, etc.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345149.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345149.page GMT A shame, because they looked quite good where they were, but no matter. I just thought I'd let you know.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345157.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345157.page GMT

Yeah Pary, I have noticed since the last patch the game eats lot names and even free store stuff if this stuff is inside buildings, but if it's in the world it doesn't. Remember the oddity of DM's chapel and the Wedding set not showing for people who had the wedding set? I wish EA would leave well enough alone and just concentrate on the broken problems.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345163.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345163.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345170.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345170.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345808.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345808.page GMT I got so into a rut I knew couldn't do it by myself. You are all so nice to help and leave me messages about it.

Okay, Let's see if I remember.

I did get a jolt when you said their was a tiny freeze. I opened it in CAW and looked but there is nothing different there or along the road which might mean it could have been any Sim in place in the world. That notion bothers me.
I'll go over my routing paint and each lot when I go to redo the Paint. I so hate when I miss a wall. :blush:

I didn't notice the lot names which is why I love it when people help. So many times I quite noticing things because I've been testing it over and over that a newer version will slip things past me.
And I must remember this... I did build a lot in Game this time~ Normally I build in CAW - card issue and all.

I have no idea how that Sim could get the song without going to a Adventure world. It just boggles the mind. . .I hope it's a game hiccup and not anything to worry about.
and Yay for Vampires in the Vampire house. If only the game would make a Simbot family.

Yes, I have had bouncers not show up in several of the locations. There would be there days later but it's no help if they don't show up right away. And a few wouldn't show up after being there for a few days.

Okay... got your messages Pary~ I'll PM you back.

Thank you all so much... I'm going back in CAW to fix things[size=9] and off to see how I colored the stall doors because I forgot. [/size] ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345990.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4345990.page GMT I got so into a rut I knew couldn't do it by myself. You are all so nice to help and leave me messages about it.

Okay, Let's see if I remember.

I did get a jolt when you said their was a tiny freeze. I opened it in CAW and looked but there is nothing different there or along the road which might mean it could have been any Sim in place in the world. That notion bothers me.
I'll go over my routing paint and each lot when I go to redo the Paint. I so hate when I miss a wall. :blush:

I didn't notice the lot names which is why I love it when people help. So many times I quite noticing things because I've been testing it over and over that a newer version will slip things past me.
And I must remember this... I did build a lot in Game this time~ Normally I build in CAW - card issue and all.

I have no idea how that Sim could get the song without going to a Adventure world. It just boggles the mind. . .I hope it's a game hiccup and not anything to worry about.
and Yay for Vampires in the Vampire house. If only the game would make a Simbot family.

Yes, I have had bouncers not show up in several of the locations. There would be there days later but it's no help if they don't show up right away. And a few wouldn't show up after being there for a few days.

Okay... got your messages Pary~ I'll PM you back.

Thank you all so much... I'm going back in CAW to fix things[size=9] and off to see how I colored the stall doors because I forgot. [/size] [/quote]

I have SIMS in Barnacle Bay the know songs already. That is EA's world. Immigrants maybe? lol I don't think it's your world, which btw is awesome, as are many others you made. ^^]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4346008.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4346008.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4346074.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4346074.page GMT The only reason I even mentioned the "finishes" was because I know that the creator of a world, sets the prices of his or her lots. And since this particular creator had mentioned in an earlier post that she was close to finalizing this world, I thought I would just offer a tiny suggestion, that her cheaper homes look cheaper. Did not mean to imply that I thought she had to do it my way, or else. It was only a small suggestion - nothing else.
That said, I would like to apologize to the creator of this world, if my comments in any way hurt her feelings. I truly respect anyone who can create a world using EAs tools. They certainly don't make it easy for you. And I truly think that this is a lovely world - and is a testament to a very creative person's genius.
Now back to lurking. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348321.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348321.page GMT
To top it all off I am still running on a slightly defunct mobo that unfortunately must stay as it is for at least another couple of weeks as my new mobo is back ordered. Believe me had I known this before I sent payment, I would have went to another supplier, but oh well, it's paid for and I have to just wait I guess. Most people from reading the tech boards would probably be thrilled to be playing on my pc to have 9 straight hours of flawless play. That says a great deal more about how great this world of yours actually is this go round, as that feat alone is a rarety even among EA worlds.

So breathe Rflong, but I would appreciate if others would check out that area too and confirm my biggest suspicion that it was just the OVER extended play - seeing both instances happened within minutes of each other and I had absolutely nothing at all previous to those few minutes.

I am preparing to go back into the game with an all fresh boot and I plan to check that area out myself and if my suspicions are right I'll bet there will not be a single blip. So if I am wrong, I will immediately get out of the game and come back in here and let you know. If you don't hear from me in the next hour, then rest assured there was no problem and it was as I suspect -on my end and not MBC at all.

I have 2 pm Eastern time. I'm off to reboot and going into the game in about 5 minutes. I need to make a cup of coffee first. hehehe]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348432.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348432.page GMT That said, I would like to apologize to the creator of this world, if my comments in any way hurt her feelings. I truly respect anyone who can create a world using EAs tools. They certainly don't make it easy for you. And I truly think that this is a lovely world - and is a testament to a very creative person's genius.
Now back to lurking. [/quote]

I wouldn't worry about it - rflong doesn't seem bothered by the suggestions, and that's all it is, just an idea - not a criticism I also appreciated her response that having faux fur/wood etc helped liven up the place and I agree... all gray/matte plastics and metals would be boring and make the colonists long for the vibrant colors of home hehe. Giving them a little taste of home styles is a good idea.

I think its a very creative and wonderful looking world too. It's exactly the world I wanted my husband to build for me (and I'm even re-thinking my original idea that I didn't want roads based on rflong's feedback about how sims use the subways). I'm thrilled she's picked up this project and run with it as I've seen nothing else out there even close to this sort of theme.

That being said, just wanted to add my name to testing. I've loaded it up with my mods/package files removed and am going to let it run with ordinary game created sims most of today.

Can anyone tell me what cache files I need to delete? I know there are cache files located in several different file locations. Thanks!

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I, in no way have problems with suggestions but as a tester and not the creator we need to stay focused on first making sure the world itself is stable and unfortunately many people will see one person go off in a tangent and others will be chiming in and following, and we end up losing focus. That's all. So please don't be offended - I am known as a hard tester and probably too bossy by most peoples standards. I seem to have this take charge mannerism when I am not in charge and if I do offend anyone, please just try and dismiss it, as I do try and treat every test as serious business even though I know this is just a game. Definitely do not let my bossiness push you away from testing, as the more eyes we have the sooner the creator has the product they want to share with everyone.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348658.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348658.page GMT compositorCache.pkg
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and also delete your dccback up files. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348729.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348729.page GMT
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Nevermind, answered my own question by searching MTS wiki (such a great tool ModtheSims is! ). If anyone else wants to remove cache files to help create a clean environment for testing - here's where I got info:

http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Delete_Cache_Files

Edit:

[quote=Writin_Reg]caspartCache.pkg
compositorCache.pkg
scriptCache.pkg
simcompositorCache.pkg.
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Thanks WR! I'm on it now

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348764.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348764.page GMT The only reason I even mentioned the "finishes" was because I know that the creator of a world, sets the prices of his or her lots. And since this particular creator had mentioned in an earlier post that she was close to finalizing this world, I thought I would just offer a tiny suggestion, that her cheaper homes look cheaper. Did not mean to imply that I thought she had to do it my way, or else. It was only a small suggestion - nothing else.
That said, I would like to apologize to the creator of this world, if my comments in any way hurt her feelings. I truly respect anyone who can create a world using EAs tools. They certainly don't make it easy for you. And I truly think that this is a lovely world - and is a testament to a very creative person's genius.
Now back to lurking. [/quote]

I do understand what you mean and I do realize you were thinking and suggesting to share an idea which occurred to you while playing.
I did go in and remove some wood. Not in the large crate houses, I really like the Metal and wood combination of them.
Thank you for testing and sharing the suggestions. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348813.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348813.page GMT
To top it all off I am still running on a slightly defunct mobo that unfortunately must stay as it is for at least another couple of weeks as my new mobo is back ordered. Believe me had I known this before I sent payment, I would have went to another supplier, but oh well, it's paid for and I have to just wait I guess. Most people from reading the tech boards would probably be thrilled to be playing on my pc to have 9 straight hours of flawless play. That says a great deal more about how great this world of yours actually is this go round, as that feat alone is a rarety even among EA worlds.

So breathe Rflong, but I would appreciate if others would check out that area too and confirm my biggest suspicion that it was just the OVER extended play - seeing both instances happened within minutes of each other and I had absolutely nothing at all previous to those few minutes.

I am preparing to go back into the game with an all fresh boot and I plan to check that area out myself and if my suspicions are right I'll bet there will not be a single blip. So if I am wrong, I will immediately get out of the game and come back in here and let you know. If you don't hear from me in the next hour, then rest assured there was no problem and it was as I suspect -on my end and not MBC at all.

I have 2 pm Eastern time. I'm off to reboot and going into the game in about 5 minutes. I need to make a cup of coffee first. hehehe[/quote]

Oh, no. I didn't know you were still waiting for a new mobo (what a funny abbreviation!)
You do know how I hold my breath when I see a reply.
Thanks, WR. :hugz:]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348847.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348847.page GMT
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Nevermind, answered my own question by searching MTS wiki (such a great tool ModtheSims is! ). If anyone else wants to remove cache files to help create a clean environment for testing - here's where I got info:

http://www.modthesims.info/wiki.php?title=Game_Help:Sims_3_Delete_Cache_Files

Edit:

[quote=Writin_Reg]caspartCache.pkg
compositorCache.pkg
scriptCache.pkg
simcompositorCache.pkg.
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Thanks WR! I'm on it now

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Good information link. Thanks, Envie ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348870.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4348870.page GMT
Outside of the sports arena, my sim has twice now complained about being unable to walk or path to something. (wow I forgot how annoying the tantrum / footstomping was because I use AM which disables that emote haha) I watched her for a bit to see why and she kept getting the action to 'view solar panel' but apparently could not path to it. Your sports arena does not have any solar panels on the ground there, so I had to guess she wanted to go to the ones on the street next to the streetlamps next door.

I tested it by having her move around the area - she will 'go here' just fine. She will exit the lot and go home just fine too. But if I just leave her there outside the doors of the arena, she footstomps over and over about not being able to get to the solar panels. (no idea why she's so determined to view them)

Further testing - if I manually walk her to in front of the solar panel by lightpole between sports arena and movie set, she goes there fine and can then 'view' the solar panel just fine too.

This isn't a huge deal btw. Plenty of objects in EA's basegame world do this similar issue for unknown reasons. There does not seem to be anything blocking their path and manually going there works fine, just autonomous movement by the sim won't work.

No sure if this is the reason WR experienced a few hitches near the solar panels or not. Maybe the object itself is buggy - its a new object that came with that free Eco pack download (and perfect for a moon colony's needs) - maybe its just buggy. If a sim 'views' it then it must be labeled as a 'statue or art' object?

Just thought I'd throw this out there.

I still had a teensy bit of hitching at the start of my new game - no CC, no mods, cache cleared, no building / constructing or modifying any of your lots. Clean 'new game' of your world. I still think it's spawners kicking in or the world starting up its population and texture filling. Again not a aig deal, and once 2-3 sim days passed, its smooth as butter. It's probably an EA programming issue and not even related to your world.

I've visited 3 of your bars / nightclubs, the founder's park (do you mean for the fountain there to look like that?) the school, sports arena, and town hall so far. My sim started her first day as a playground attendant, but then got offered a prof. sports career right away (she's athletic) - hence the reason she's around the arena often. She's living in your starter dome house next to founder's park. She's had no problems in the house lot or other venues so far...]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4349573.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4349573.page GMT
It's strange but any game object put on the world layer can not be interacted with by a Sim. Like the ... oh, fire pits or fountains which are in CAW and the game. If they are placed on the world layer then Sims will just way their arms and get the "can't reach/interact" icon.
They will want to but not be able to. Maybe I should move them to the lots... but then I get the light edge more. Hmmm
They are items are in CAW too now and not just the Store pack. Weird, right?

The fountain to look like a fish? Yes.. I hope it looks like a fish.

Thank you so much. I know it's different going without mods. I used to not play without awesomemod, too.
Not having the commands are a little frustrating at first. Awesome!
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Maybe spawners are different from objects. It is odd they gave it to you in CAW as well as a buyable object but it won't work even though sims see it and want to interact with it. It's obviously a pathing issue though, not a useage issue as she could use it if I manually took her to it and viewed it. Well that's definitely an EA issue and not anything wrong with your world building! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4349780.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4349780.page GMT
The thing is, you told her to go here, go here, go here... and then look. She wanted to Look which caused the "I can't do anything" reaction. There were no go heres when she wanted to view.
You see? You can path, she could path but she wanted to see it not go near it.

If only the light wasn't so weird when they are on the lots. I like it shining from the world map and not just the lots... I'll look into again and see.


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So far so good otherwise now, but I have been busy doing other things and just let the game run on its own, only attending to pop up requests for things, opportunities, etc.

I will have more time tonight to do some one-on-one play / movement stuff.

Edit: she's still doing it - I have no idea why she's so obsessed with those solar panels, but everytime she comes out of the sports arena from her job, she stands there footstomping for about an hour sims-time. She turns back and forth from one direction (of nearest panel) to the other at the other end of the block. I just let her go to see if she'd stay stuck but she finally gave up after about 6 tries and went home.

Edit #2: Idea: what if there's another solar panel next to the lights in front of the sports arena? Maybe she'll be attracted to that instead of the ones she can't path to... just a thought. May try that to experiment.

I agree with you the lights and solar panels look great where they are and cast a nice world glow... its just those silly solar panels causing her to freak out.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4350481.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4350481.page GMT
Ahhh how clever. I had to go back and look at it again to see it. It's a fish alright

I just started another single sim (male) in the starter dome house across the street from my female (Sarah) to test something. Sarah's having real issues. No matter what I do, I cannot keep her mood meter above 'uncomfortable' status... even when most all of her meters are half or more (meaning she's not hungry, or too tired, or lonely etc). She's a random-sim from CAS so I don't know what's wrong. She has childish, athletic, family oriented, neat and I think excitable. I keep everything up above half green bars but her mood just keeps dipping back down to uncomfortable or worse. Going to see if the male has this problem or not. I have never had a sim, even without mods, that I couldn't manage to keep happy esp if playing them solo with all my attention on them and not other family members. Could be some hidden trait causing it I suppose.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4353336.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4353336.page GMT
It is a mega bug, which I did not get until just recently, others have reported it though since the day after the last patch.




Rflong - I believe the solar stuff in CAW is a bit different than the ones in buy because the ones in buy - both the wind mill and the solar panels reduces the Sims bills the more they add to their lot. If the sim has the eco-trait and also have these two eco devices as well as the recycle bins they get a noticeable deduction in the bills. It will tell you when you put the wind mills on the lot and a solar panel on the roof how much of a deduction your sims will get. This is on the good side - on the bad side and what EA does not tell you is too many of these solar panels or windmills and you can get a freezing laggy lot. The world items are just statues and will not create a problem any more than any decoative item will from my understanding - but the buyables will create a problem if you apparently use too many. I wish I knew what the magic number is but I have no clue. I did have 3 windmills in my farmers fields and 3 solar panels on the roof of his house (as the solar panels are recommended to be put on the roof - again why I don't know as no one has stated that - but anyway with that number on a 40 x 40 lot I had no freezing or lag at all, and my sims bills were cut drastically, so they are worth it if the sims have a big farm and live off their land.

I have observed the Sims come out of the stadium and do that just as Envie said, which does not bother me at all and does not seem to create a big to do about it. On that same level I have similar incident in several of EA's worlds where the sims complain when they can't get near one of the statues because it was placed on a foundation with a fence around it and in another case is an EA placed fountain that they surrounded with plants and bushes. Probably if they were not blocked they would not even care to go look at at the darn things. I have gotten immune to that kind of silliness from the Sims as they find at least one thing in every town to carry on about. As long as they don't get stuck, I just ignor it and apparently so does EA as they must be aware the sims are going to do this when they cannot reach every single thing they feel like reaching or obsess over.

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I also learned that sims will take the subway to go to the hospital to have their babies as well as come home with the baby the same way. It was the first time I had seen them do that, as you well know I tried like the dickens to make sims in SOCL LV do that from the Lagoon and they wouldn't unless I walked them there one step at a time. On this moon world you tell them to go to the hospital and they go if the subway is within about a block or so of their house without any aid from me but to tell them to go to the hospital.

Also during this play session the game added 5 more families from 2 sims to one family of 7, but they were mostly 2 or 3 sims households. Would you believe there is all kinds of celebs, but apparently the moon does not like the papparazzi as I have seen none of them at all anywhere. That is not to say there isn't any, but they are definitely not chasing down my now married couple who have 3 stars each. Perhaps it is the dome keeping them away. There is also a far number of Vamps as well, and they act totally the same as they do in any world, but not one complains of the sun. They hunt the sims and apparently bite and turn sims as I see Vamps that were human yesterday, but they seem to keep themselves fairly content with the plasma fruit as I am always seeing them eating the fruit. About the sun thing, it would be my guess the vamps are not out long enough to start smoking, as they are usually only seen above ground just shortly before sunset - around 5 pm or so, and the few I have seen out earlier, took off after less than an hour, so they are just not out long enough I would think. I did not play any of the Vamps to know for sure.

And nope, no simbot family in the simbot house yet. hehehe


Oh and I have solved the mystery of the sims and the songs - seems the sim I put in my library was the one I used to test your Picaroon as my sim ended up marrying her, and she has a full inventory of camping gear, and stuff from the digs I did on your island. If you recall once I got her WA experience up on the island I tested travelling from the island to the WA world and she did go to egypt. Now she has half the moon base singing those egyptian songs. So I obviously saved the wrong version, even though this version is very well skilled, and unfortunately the only version I have of her, as the original is on my other harddrive that has Windows 7 on it and not in here. But anyway, mystery solved.

Edit to add - the only thing I have now not tested is one of the WA trips somewhere. I intended on taking my sims on a honeymoon to china that ended up not happening as I left them after they got engaged to play a game placed family with 3 kid age kids and a teen to check the schools. When I come back to my testers house my silly sim had married his fiancee and she was living in his house and very preggers, so naturally no trips for them, as I don't trust the game not to devour the newborns if my sims take a trip and usually wait until they are child age and can go with their parents. So if someone else wants to take a trip, or if you want me to send one of my other sims on a trip - I have the Writin boys in here and Dallas Sim, as well as Crazy Town's version of the Caliente sisters (naturally in your Calienti dome house) so I can send one or more of them if you want - but from where I sit - I say MBC is a go!!!!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4354359.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4354359.page GMT

~Oh, no~ Envie. I haven't had that bug yet *knock on wood* but yes, it is a bug in the game like Writin explained. I hope it goes away soon... and EA fixes it.

~Great~ Yay! I have taken a Sim to China and back. Thank you all so much.
I will move that light and Solar panel since both you and Envie are seeing a routing fit there.

I hope the Exchange starts working so I can upload it soon.
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But yeah this world is pretty much spot on spectacular if you ask me, as not often can people play those kind of hours in any sims world without some kind of weirdness. I was also happy to discovered the song was caused by my sim. I had totally forgotten I had used that sim for testing Picaroon and would have known had I played her house, but didn't know until she was under my control in my tester sims house. She came loaded with all kinds of artifacts and when I checked her travel panel she had indeed gone to Egypt. I know on that other harddrive I have the original version on the desktop folder and what I think I did was save her to my studio from within Picaroon when I had to switch back to this somewhat smaller Sata drive. As I had placed all my favorite testing sims in my studio so I didn't have to go through what I went through when my former harddrive died on me and have to rebuild all those skills. I don't use the cheats so it takes like for ever. For some odd reason I must have chosen to load her from Picaroon instead of the Build world I now hold my sims on for testing purposes and so I can easily transfer them to my studio when I need to. She is a good testing Sims though and does a lot on her own so I enjoy just placing her in the world and letting her do her own thing, while I control a Newbie. I have several like her.

But anyway, mystery is no mystery, just me being a dodo head.

But yeah, this world plays real nice. Oh also your pigeons finally appeared in both of those parks - The Founders and the Experimental Food one I think they are called. So the pigeons do spawn, it just takes a while.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4354750.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4354750.page GMT
I wish I knew how EA reset the pigeons to show right away. They take a save and re-enter to get the fog emitter items like pigeons/fireflies to show up.

I am thinking about adding Sims to the world then uploading.

Oh, the Exchange hasn't updated to show anything more recent then December 20th. Everything else just doesn't show up on it. *things show on our pages but not the exchange page...I think yesterday was the last time I checked it.

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Yeah, I sort of think MBC has grown on me somewhat. It was fun testing it for sure. I wanted to play the Steampunk house but figured I'd better play one of the ones under the dome because if any was going to be a trouble spot I sort of figured the dome would be it. But I must say the dome house played flawlessly. Way different than the last domes EA had. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4354969.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4354969.page GMT

Just have to update to be able to use the mods to add Sims. It's got me stymied- patch and use mods with possibility of world not work... or upload without Aliens...

~Oh, and I'm glad you liked it. It is rather different and sparse to what most would play- it seems like it would give a barren feeling but i think with the canyon feel it was okay.
Yay! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355059.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355059.page GMT http://s1189.photobucket.com/albums/z439/Writin_Reg/Rflongs%20MBC%20-%20%20Test/?albumview=slideshow

I did take a few shots while I was testing every now and then and you will eventually see the pigeons. Hopefully this works.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355080.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355080.page GMT

They're great. Nice shot of the View from the top of the View. I always forgot to it check out. Thanks

And nice outfits. Really like his workout clothes.

Thank you so much Writin_Reg :hugz:]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355106.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355106.page GMT
I also showed you the house and yard under the dome, because first I added that baby's room. No problem. (My sims did have a garden which I didn't take a picture of as you already had gardens under the dome with obviously no problem.) Next after the baby's room I added grass just under the dome. I added tools for Mia to use as I put her in the artist and sculpture field so she worked out in the yard under the dome.

I added the pond. The a fountain. Some statues and flowers and a shooting water spray. All with no problem, and finally 2 trees with no problems at all. The domes are finally stable in my view and do not seem to care what you do under them.

Oh and that outdoor game, the Sims still play it backwards. I tried to get a shot of the girl playing it, but missed the shot and it looked like she was just standing there - but she was actually playing that yard game. I can't figure out why they do that on the community lot as it does not do that on the home lots.

Also I got a pic of Pyro and Mia getting engaged and that particular club as you can see has no bouncer, bartender or anyone, but the next night everyone was there. That club is the one called the Lair I believe.

The first club which I don't recall it's name and all the others did get the bartender and bouncer right off the bat.

I got a kick out of that game produced Vampire showing she was hungry and staring at that other sim like he was dinner. But that is one of the Vamps the game moved into the house you named Vamp House. There are 5 of them in there, but one is just kid age, the kid playing with the toys in the park in a suit and I don't think he is a Vamp as I don't see the mark on him. There is a male, I assume the kids dad that is not a Vamp in that house. There are 2 adult Vamp Females and another 2 Adult Vamp males and a teen girl that has the mark.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355137.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355137.page GMT It's great! I didn't want to go too far but to let the player expand on them. You know. So, great.

I did notice the bouncer missing*. I wonder why they will be there one night and not the next. It seems to happen a lot. I am moving the private door in the View to one side so the bar can be open but the top high level will be restricted. It'll need a bar but it's all good. Just not much light so the view is still there.



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WHere did you get the planet Earth? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355177.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355177.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355180.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355180.page GMT
I personally think because there are a good number of clubs and I had so few sims in the world, was why it was on the slow side to send the service people to them all. But once they were there, they came every night as they should.

Yeah I am glad you left that bare like that as it made me think to add a little bit at a time to see how the dome reacted and like I said it had no problem at all.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355212.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4355212.page GMT
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WHere did you get the planet Earth? [/quote]

I took a picture off the internet, edited to be only blue and white and then used this tutorial by Stw then used S3pe to import into the world files.

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I haven't yet seen it on MBC. I haven't come upon it. But let me tell you in every world that it's on, it traps sims. I had one of my sims' romantic interests trapped at the Portable Knubb Set in one of Matkooskee's parks for about 3 sim days. I couldn't figure out why he was snubbing my sim every time she called him he had an excuse for not coming over. I knew he was unemployed so I started looking for a party or some gathering where he might have gotten stuck. I found him at the portable Knubb set. I should have known--I've seen it happen to too many sims on too many worlds. They are not obviously stuck or in distress. If you come upon them you can interact with them and that is sufficient to "break the spell". But if you don't interact, they will stay there day and night. I don't know if they can leave of their own volition.

IMO, the portable knubb set probably shouldn't be on a community lot. I seriously regret putting it in the gym I made for Winter Wonderland. I didn't realize there is a problem with it until I saw what happened on Matkooskee. Though I'd seen sims enthralled by the portable knubb set before, on Matkooskee I finally understood how bad of an issue it is that they can't respond to phone invitations. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4356617.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4356617.page GMT
I could go in and edit it out / replace it but I thought the idea WR said in a previous post was not to alter the base game you've created and to just remark on things that are already there, not added, built or altered.

Also, I appreciate the feedback about why some sims are not able to stay happy. This is the first time I've seen it at all so I have to guess awesomemod is using pescado's alternate story progression and other fixes to keep the sims I was previously playing in line. I haven't been reading the general forums or technical stuff here so I totally missed that this was an ongoing issue for many.


Lastly - was it confirmed how to fix the problem with the public wall stereos only playing classical music? I have that problem in another world I'm playing where I built a club.

Thanks for all the ongoing talk about this world, its a fun and very different theme that appeals to me for the androsim project. I'll be moving them in as soon as testing is complete and the release version is done. I intend to play test it a bit more as there are venues I've yet to visit and test.

Again, I think an easy workaround for the problem of sims not pathing to those solar panels is to place one or two on your sports arena entrance lot as a distractor away from those they cannot path to off lot. Since it took my sim 6 times / tries before she gave up (over a sim hour) - I would consider it buggy enough to try a workaround or fix since it affects flud gameplay and causes sim jams, but that's just my opinion. I feel the same way about the poor design of the highrise elevators in Late Night as well (sim jams waiting for elevator in small area causing them to pee themselves waiting and footstomping) hehe.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4356968.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4356968.page GMT

I've downloaded Test 3 but then reading through the thread leads me to believe you are getting ready to upload the final version. It looks like your testers have pretty well put the test version through its paces. Am I correct in this assumption? If so, I'll hold off to install the final. If incorrect and you want more testing done, I'll be happy to install it and check it out. I'm antsy to play it, of course ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4357130.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4357130.page GMT

How ya doin?
I do realize Sims like to play it but I never noticed them do that. I'll remove it. Thanks.

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Hi, Envie

The Sims have always tossed the pieces weird for me and I do know others. It's not just a few Sims.

The Speakers~ You can choose the music in Edit Town mode by Ctrl+Alt clicking on them and choosing Change to...(pick music). DM told me how to do fix them.

I'll be moving a few- the ones near the Stadium to the lot to try and fix it. Thanks.

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Hi, DD

Glad you're back. I hope you had a great time.

I probably won't upload it until the exchange is work right again. If you want to test it some more that would be great.
I'll be fixing a few things so you can test that version. Just want to wait to upload. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4357671.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4357671.page GMT
The Sims have always tossed the pieces weird for me and I do know others. It's not just a few Sims.

The Speakers~ You can choose the music in Edit Town mode by Ctrl+Alt clicking on them and choosing Change to...(pick music). DM told me how to do fix them.

I'll be moving a few- the ones near the Stadium to the lot to try and fix it. Thanks. [/quote]

Really? That's odd, I've never seen sims play Gnubb the wrong direction before. I have an island community where they have very little electronic entertainment (no televisions or computers, only stereos for music and their phones of course) and they enjoy playing gnubb a lot on the community park lots. I agree there's a glitch where some of them ignore all other life's needs/wants sometimes and play gnubb for hours and hours on end. It's way too satisfying for some sims unfortunately. But anyways, they always face the right direction and throw the batons correctly. I wonder why yours get borked. Strange!
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Really? That's odd, I've never seen sims play Gnubb the wrong direction before. I have an island community where they have very little electronic entertainment (no televisions or computers, only stereos for music and their phones of course) and they enjoy playing gnubb a lot on the community park lots. I agree there's a glitch where some of them ignore all other life's needs/wants sometimes and play gnubb for hours and hours on end. It's way too satisfying for some sims unfortunately. But anyways, they always face the right direction and throw the batons correctly. I wonder why yours get borked. Strange!
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Isn't it strange. I've never seen them play it right on a community lot. On my Residential lots they play fine. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4358155.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4358155.page GMT

I do have a comment on the gnubb set issue that I can make without testing. Every single world I've downloaded with a gnubb set on a community lot has had the issue of the sims throwing the baton in the wrong direction. There are no exceptions to this, doesn't matter who has made the world. I've come to expect it, verify it does occur by having a sim use it, or just notice an inactive sim playing gnubb, and then delete and replace the set, whereupon it functions just fine. I like having the gnubb set on community lots and it is easy to delete and replace so I don't think I've brought it up before, although DM did for Mr. C's Fallen Oaks world. Why it is that way I don't know but the fault has to lie with EA coding, imho.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4358443.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4358443.page GMT

I'll have Pary's Club in the world, removed several lights/solar panels, one little Station lot to add...removed the Gnubb game.

I'm going over it one last time to make sure it's in order and then I'll package it up for upload.
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Yes Rflong, I do think it's a very good idea for us to check out the changed version, as we have learned in the past, changes sometimes make the worlds go kaboom. It is better to be safe than sorry, and anyway we know how stressed you get when it does go boom. hehehe

Definitely like SS86 and DD in here checking also as the more eyes the better. Not one of us are perfect and me less perfect than most - hehehe. My goodness, I'd be like Rflong - pulling my hair out if a world got published just on my view. So yes, yes more eyes - more better. Then I won't get blamed if I missed something and make me feel guilty forever!!! hehehe]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359621.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359621.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359632.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359632.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359717.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359717.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359763.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359763.page GMT
How's that?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359786.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359786.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359925.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4359925.page GMT @ WR and DM!

A world can't have too many beta testers. Players have different styles of play and it is those differences that help to uncover problems, or potential problem areas. As problems are discovered, other testers can see if the problem is present in their games, allowing the creator to know if something that will affect everyone needs to be dealt with.

Heavens, look at EA who had two cities in a row released with no skill books in the library. Twinbrook and Bridgeport both had this issue. There are so many things in the creation of a world to deal with that I don't see how it is possible for a creator to catch everything, thus tester need. I don't think it is possible for a single tester to be sure he or she hasn't missed something either, thus the need for multiple sets of eyes. The more, the merrier as far as I am concerned.

LOL, WR, Charlie's Angels. Does that make DM our Bosley ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4360252.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4360252.page GMT
For the sims in the red, try replacing all the beds with expensive ones to see if that helps.

The Gnubb set: I put one in the park in Longview and never had a bit of trouble with it, the sims used it just fine (and yes it was very popular). Yesterday I was in the mood to play a tropical so I reinstalled Isle of Sims and put one at the pool/beach lot, and darn it they threw the things backwards. I'm going to try to reverse the direction on the thing just to see if that makes any difference!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4360897.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4360897.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4360916.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4360916.page GMT

Also regarding the Gnubb set - like I said if the user places it - it is fine, but usually if it gets uploaded and then downloaded again in either a world or a lot, if it's on the community lots it is almost always skewed like that. I just delete them and place a new one in edit town, and it works fine after that usually.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4360991.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4360991.page GMT
Oh, no way. I am smarter than that! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4361127.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4361127.page GMT

I started reading up on the mods and I updated my game so I can use them... now I want to add some Sims to the world. That's why it's taking me so long. (besides falling asleep early .)

I hope to use the porter mod but I so don't like messing up. Off to mess up and fail or succeed and have Sims.

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I can't say I've done thorough testing because I've been trying to simultaneously fix a problem I noticed with my store content and in "real life", work on my daughter's play room so we can get her new kitchen set in there. The play room is a complete disaster and all three of us have been working on clearing it out for the past month. Yes, she has that many toys. Two sets of doting grandparents, a childless aunt who adores her, and two late-in-life parents--you can imagine! I wish I could have more babies or afford to adopt more kids to play with all that stuff. Not that my kid is super eager to share or anything, lol.

Also, I gotta warn you guys, Donuts doesn't look so good. I'll post about that in the oft-off topic CAW Lane topic. Anyway, you might not see me all of a sudden if she passes away or needs radical care. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4365751.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4365751.page GMT

I've got them placed and I want to see how it goes for a little while. *fingers crossed*



Poor Donuts...
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Moon Base Delta- With Sims.

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~I just went to the Nectary~ the subway has to be reset. It sunk. I'll have to fix it but for now....
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I did forget to change one families outfits. I'll fix that next update.


~And I need to change the family names after Porting them. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4367121.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4367121.page GMT
You're great to keep up with this, computer acting up and all - I know that frustration. I actually stopped playing TS3 after World Adventures - my machine and graphics card just could not handle it and kept choking / CTD. Hubby built me a new one for early xmas just in time for Late Night so I'm actually just getting back into the game fulltime again with a machine that can actually handle it.

Funny sidenote to that - while researching processor/mobo packages for my new PC - we found a lot of sites rated the processing capabilities (benchmark tests they call it) on running certain games and measuring performance. I found it hilarious Sims 3 was used as a testing tool quite often because its apparently one of the hardest games for a PC to process efficiently so its taxing and a good tool to measure performance. So if your machine is handling everything TS3 throws at it, its doing good! (Hope yours straightens out soon, this project is so close to being done and perfect!) ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4367729.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4367729.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4367858.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4367858.page GMT . Anyway I only just got to try and set up on MBD and as I was putting my test sim in, in the initial set up the town was empty. I put him in the Empty Crates house that I'd previously decorated and saved to the bin and put back in. At any rate as soon as he was placed the town filled up with families but they all say something like NRaas Porter:Name of Family instead of just the family name. And they weren't there from the begginning. Is this typical of pre populating a world or did something glitch for me?

Sigh I have to go and make a late dinner. I hope I can get time to test tonight. I'm sorry I kept getting delayed today. I hope to have better luck with my schedule tomorrow. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4369271.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4369271.page GMT I didn't notice the world being empty when I first started probably because I made a new Sim.

Thanks for telling me.
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I'm getting ready to play again but wanted you to know that so far I haven't had any freezes. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4369980.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4369980.page GMT My cat turned off my computer so I took some pain meds and went to sleep. It's only a head cold.

Oh, yes~ I feel so silly. I went in looking for each Sim and testing a few lots I didn't even think to check on their names. :blush:

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Speaking of the hospital, Rflong go below ground and look in the doors to the area where the lobby desk is, the wall from above is showing - but it does not cause any problem, it just blew my mind until I figured out it was just another EA drop below ground stupid thing - so doh! Now we have to worry about Walls on top of trees, bushes, and fountains. EA really needs to play their own game or something. It's not a problem apparently for the rabbitholes but that can be a very bad thing if it's a dungeon or tomb somebody has built or if they don't build a big enough building above they are liable to block the door. But so far not anyone is having a beef about any of the buildings. OH and that subway, well I forgot about it to start with and then I remembered and went into edit town to fix it, only it looked fine. You did say the Nectary right? Anyway, I thought I was remembering wrong and ended up checking all the subways and all are fine. So apparently do things not only sink, they must move back up. Just weird.


But freezing and lagging was a total ZERO - there is none anywhere and I've been everywhere.


The game added 6 families with a total of 21 sims with in the first 2 hours - I did not recount after visiting every place, but I am sure a few more got added as bouncers and bartenders in a couple clubs showed up after I had visited and after I had counted. By the way love your metal yard. Apparently I had not gone there with the other rendition but nice place - I can see homeless sims wanting to actually live there. The excavation spot was a nice touch also outside the fence.

All the fish and fruits and ground bugs spawned apparently right away, as I sent my sims to the science center first and then to the experimental food park, and there were alread one of your alien men there (the green guy) with Don Lothario having lunch at a picnic table. So the picnic baskets also showed right up. No fireflies or pigeons yet, just the fog where they will eventually be. I also saw the bluish/green fellow over in the bushes fishing and that was mere minutes after I got in my sims house. There was a stag beetle, lady bugs, and another kind of beetle scurrying around. No butterflies yet, but I don't recall if you had some in there or not. There was butterflies in the Founders park I think that was.

Okay for the other small weird thing that didn't really cause a problem was Don and the Green Sim got up from the picnic table rather quickly, sort of a pop up and away from the table and just continued talking as if it was nothing at all. I haven't figured out if it is just the table or the sims, but I never saw either of them out and about except at the movie theater where one was going in when one was coming out. I also saw Don sitting on a bench another day in a park reading, and when your blue haired Long sim showed up and started playing the drums in the park he stood up normally and started listening to the music. So it might be one of the picnic basket loaded picnic tables in the science park, I will need to play their houses later and make sure it is not the sims. My sim did grab food from the basket and sat at the other table and didn't do any popping away from that table. So it could just be the one table or those two sims.

I plan to go back in shortly, but figured I would come here and see if anyone else had came across anything.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371533.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371533.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371558.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371558.page GMT http://s1189.photobucket.com/albums/z439/Writin_Reg/Moon%20Base%20Delta/?albumview=slideshow


Just a few pics from my sim and some of the others I spied here and there. I had to show you guys Pary at the metal dump she was mesmerized by the metal simbot statue, and so I went closer, it looks like she is thinking she can't believe her eyes. hehehe]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371723.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371723.page GMT

I played a while in the first save I reported on. Then I started a second save with a different character and the houses were filled up right away with no delay. So far in both save games I've had bouncers appear where I needed them.

I'm currently having my second sim in the Abandoned Car and notice there is no sound coming from the wall speakers. I tried turning them up, no luck. I tried skipping a track, no luck. Anybody else notice this or is this something on my end of it?

Save version filled right up with many families within 3 sim days. In that version Antonia Halstead got drafted to the nectar register so in save 2, I'm letting the game run longer and will visit all the venues before I put custom families in.

One thing I've been noticing in all my worlds is almost all of my female bartenders are very overweight while the men are medium to thin build. I wonder why.

Well count me a slowbee for pattern recognition but I only noticed tonight that the fountain in one of the park domes is shaped like a fish. Duh! Derp. Well I must say it was mighty clever to build it like that. I'm constantly blown away by the creativity I'm encountering at every turn. So many little surprises.

I'll check out the sinky-dinkys that WR saw. If sinking becomes a major problem for the rabbit holes is there a way to recolor them kind of grayish if you need to put them above ground? I hope it doesn't come to having to put everything above ground because it's so cool how RF built so many underground access ways and arranged everything. So far I haven't encountered any problems from sinking.

One other thing I noticed when my test sim #1 went to the Nectary, well first off he sampled nectar twice. I got him to clean up after himself but he took the debris all the way upstairs to the bathroom sink. It might help to put a sink in one of the counters there. However...I did notice he kept pacing awhile before setting the platters of nectar down on the counters. There was plenty of counter space so I don't know what caused him to pace like that. I might go in and tweak that section to see if it's decor that caused the pacing and test to see if a sink would be beneficial. Of course it's not necessary to clean up after themselves but I noticed if a sim tastes a lot of nectar there the trays are going to pile up.

RFlong, sorry you are sick. I hope you get over it soon. There's a virus going around where we live that seems to just hang on. Hubby, kid, I, in-laws and hubby's coworkers all have it. It's awful. It sets in as a semi-chronic sinus infection. I am considering asking my doc for antibiotics to get rid of it. I hate doing that because antibiotics give me more problems than they fix, sometimes. They didn't seem to do my daughter any good other than clear up her ear infection. Blah. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371919.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371919.page GMT

Just a few pics from my sim and some of the others I spied here and there. I had to show you guys Pary at the metal dump she was mesmerized by the metal simbot statue, and so I went closer, it looks like she is thinking she can't believe her eyes. hehehe[/quote]

I sent you an anvite, and reco's all. got a lots and fav'd some. It finally let me on it. lol I cant get on it again ATM, or mine for that matter, but at least I got to help you out a bit. ^^ Happy SIMMING! ^^]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371938.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4371938.page GMT

I've put in more play...er...testing time I'm not having any routing problems, nor am I experiencing any lag. Everything is running smoothly so far. I love the detail that you put into a world. Fog emitting from grates near subway stations was such a creative idea, to mention just one.

BTW, I also had all sims in place from the minute I entered the world. I can't imagine why it was different for SS86.

Did you build the Alpha One club or was that Pary's build? Either way, my compliments to the designer. That's a pretty spectacular build, imho. The Clucky Chicken is no slouch either. Actually, I've thoroughly enjoyed all the clubs I've been to.

I'll continue testing in the morning. I'm going to make it an early night because I'm still tired from too many late nights while I was gone. So far, though, it looks like the stuttering you ran into is your computer and not the world. I can't believe the number of problems you've had with it since it is so newly purchased. That's got to be tremendously frustrating.

ETA - I do hope you get to feeling better.

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Anyone else not able to place a house on lot 653 Perimeter Road? That would be the lot next to the Simbot House. It looks fine. I can't understand why I can't place a clone of any of the houses from that street onto that lot. I tried a clone of the Vampire House, the Simbot House and the Reaper House. The only thing changed in the clones are the beds and I may have upgraded a toilet in one of the houses, can't remember. Odd.

Oh man I have to be up at 6 a.M. What am I still doing up? LOL--I tried playing earlier and ended up reading a book to my kid. What's a mother to do.

Oh forgot to mention no stuttering. My daughter liked the pigeons in the dome park. And the delay of the families coming into the world was only the first time I played the world. When I started again to make a different version that didn't have one of my sim's manning the Nectary register, everything came up immediately like you all have reported. Not sure what caused that first delay at all.

Unfortunately in Save Game 2, poor Pary is stuck at the nectary register and she really wants to go to the movies, judging by the thought bubble that kept popping up over her head. Poor Pary. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372068.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372068.page GMT
EDIT: One more observation before I go to bed. I mean it this time, I shut off the game...lol...not ALT Tab out this time.

I went back to Save Game 1--for ease of reference it's Zander--he was my test sim in my first Save Game. In Zander's save, I could place houses any place I please. The lots have little rectangle icons and I did indeed place houses where in Save Game 2--Diana's Save, I can't place houses on at least TWO lots now. One was the 653 Perimeter Road and the other is ...drat...forgot the address--it's on the long road that terminates in a large empty lot that has a subway entrance on it. It's about three lots up from that lot. I'll get the address tomorrow.

Okay so why can I place houses on lots in one Save Game but not in the second one? What went wrong, what changed the lots to show house icons on them and make me unable to place houses on these untouched lots?

Is this an EA thing? A world thing? A SummerSong's wonky computer thing? Goodness it's mind boggling I have to test out TWO saved games. Now I'm going to go back to Zander Save Game 1 to see if the speakers in the club work there.

Tomorrow I'll try a THIRD save game to see if the town map opens up with the lots designated properly.

I'm sorry if the stuff I'm reporting is known and discussed already. I try to keep up with the discussions but as you all know it's been stressful here and I've got so much crowding my head I'm bound to forget or miss something. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372091.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372091.page GMT
I didn't build anything as I try to play without building until I'm sure there are no problems anywhere, that way if I build something and get a problem, then I know it's my build. So I wait until I give the world a big OK. Then I make a save as and build one thing. Check every where. Add some thing else. Check every where, etc.

What I do when I see one of the regular sims at a register is go play theri house for just long enough to have them quit that job and then get them a job suited to their wish. Eventually the game will provide sims for those jobs.


Edit to add: that wall I saw that had sunk is just looking into to the hospital where you can see the lobby. I don't see thing s like that in any of the other underground buildings, at least not so far.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372163.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372163.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372189.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372189.page GMT
I suppose I should be thankful she's not a mixologist. No one would ever get served, she would be so busy "sampling"]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372190.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372190.page GMT
Well in my game you are hanging out at the Moon's Metal (junk) yard, totally mesmerized by a junk simbot statue. I had to take a picture of it. The look on your sims face also cracked me up.

See if it had been my game I would have ran over to your house and had gotten you a different job. Beside the moon would probably have a big limit on the amount of grapes it could produce - all that sampling might make the Nectary nectarless. hehehe]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372248.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372248.page GMT
Nice pictures, WR.
I am glad no one is upset about their Sims being in the World. I change clothes and two hairs styles that I remember.

~Oh, the Nectary Subway didn't sink of it's own accord- well, it did when I placed it from game to a new edited map-but I re-leveled it and must have missed the subway and that is why it is lower then the rest of the building.
It was my own mistake on testing.

~The wall of the Hospital is the back lot wall. I kept the basement smaller but didn't notice the wall showed. Since you said it wasn't causing a problem I left it.

~I checked out the picnic tables and moved the light away. I don't know why it would do that.

~I went in the club and checked the speakers. They were set to Custom. It should be playing~I end up playing with the Music off because I build so much it starts getting on my nerves. I just leave it off. :blush:
I set it to ... Latin? I think. Something different I think.
I'll turn my music on and see if it plays this time.

~Changed the lot names. Will check it out today for this version..

~It is Pary's Club. It's cool, right?

~The occupied lots- There are a few spawners near a few of the lots over there and I moved them one more square away (I checked all spawners and moved them) but none were actually touching the lots. They were close yet the ring indicators were not over the lot line. So, maybe I need to remember 3 squares away from the lots next time.

~I gave Pary a better job this time. I think it's better.
I didn't populate the world's NPCs. I'm not that creative. No big stories or dramas in the world. Just some Sims to get the world going- and some interesting Sims who helped me- I didn't for Envie's Sim this time.

Thanks so much everyone.

My computer crashed on it's own last night while in EIG but it's fine then, CAW saves before entering.
I keep finding reasons to put it off but I'll be reformatting my computer after this world is done. *fingers crossed*

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Thank you. I'm so glad you like it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372859.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372859.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372896.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4372896.page GMT
I'm surprised she hasn't already drunk the place dry.

Actually one the topic of custom music from speakers.. does that actually work for anyone here? It seems to not work for most people, & never has for me, and I like my own music. I wish they would fix it.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373219.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373219.page GMT
Here's the newest Pary Strange

[img]http://llnw.thesims3.com/sims3_asset/sims3_asset/media/shard000//shard000/092/555/007/00/screenshot_original.jpg"width=650"[/img]]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373310.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373310.page GMT A total opposite than what her traits should define.

And no, custom music doesn't seem to work on club speakers. It was the first thing I did when I got LN, was try to set all the club speakers to custom, and nothing comes out. Its very annoying. Works fine on stereo's though.

I did miss the music from the college rock station in sims 2, so before I gave the discs back to my sister, I extracted it all from the game so I could put it into my custom music folder.

Edit : I'm glad you like Alpha One dolldrms. I don't. It wouldn't do what I wanted and now I hate it. I put it into Mesa, and I can't even bear to send my sims to it.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373352.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373352.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373420.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373420.page GMT
( she probably drank all the profits )]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373465.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4373465.page GMT You don't like your club?! I think it's awesome!

GW and DD LOVE their new house on the moon and are sooo happy to be there
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Moon Dojo 1, GW and DD 0
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Time to meet the neighbors! GW introduces himself to Kat Long while Peter Writin peruses the wine selection in the Nectary. Nectary Lots are always so popular
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Nice pictures, too. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4374392.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4374392.page GMT
But whatever issue my game was having (files/folders/etc) is better today. It showed up properly the second time around. I've downloaded quite a few player made worlds from mediafire so I have no idea what the issue was. Definitely my end not yours.

I've just taken over Pary Strange (she's great!) living in the steampunk shoveler house by the tiny dome houses. She wants to be a writer so she's taken the class and started a novel. She's eaten at the restaurant and visited the nectary so far. And so far so good, no glitches or weirdness at all! All of the saved sims appear to be there instantly for me and NPC sims (mixologists, tattoo artists, etc) all showed up for work right away because I use NRAAS register mod and it notifies me what the name of the sim is who is assigned each register or job so I can change or choose another or one of my self created sims if I want. This helps prevent any sims you don't want in an NPC job being assigned by the game.

EDIT: I should note that I reloaded all of my mods after having very few issues with your Charlie version running without any mods or CC (other than those i posted). It's now running just fine with all mods/cc too - and there wasn't the hitching I had with the previous version's first day or two. I don't know what caused that other than sims or objects populating the game and borking up something my system was processing.

I will check out other lots later today - esp the ones mentioned above that are having sink issues.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4374911.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4374911.page GMT
I am sorry it does that and good you got it working.

Did you see Anna Sim in a house?

~That's fine about the mods. This is mostly seeing how it runs with Sims included.

Thanks again.
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I am sorry it does that and good you got it working.

Did you see Anna Sim in a house?

~That's fine about the mods. This is mostly seeing how it runs with Sims included.

Thanks again.
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Oh wow - how did I miss her? I thought I looked at all the populated families but I missed her. I'll go right now and find her and play her a bit too. I'm curious if she shows up / works correctly for others considering how she was created and that she required mods to even walk right at first (should not require one as Young adult or older)... I don't know whether to call her a simdroid or an androsim haha.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375043.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375043.page GMT
Oh wow - how did I miss her? I thought I looked at all the populated families but I missed her. I'll go right now and find her and play her a bit too. I'm curious if she shows up / works correctly for others considering how she was created and that she required mods to even walk right at first (should not require one as Young adult or older)... I don't know whether to call her a simdroid or an androsim haha.[/quote]

I did remove the CC patterns and lipstick.
I know she had mods working on her but I don't think they would play in a non mod world. I did have her installed in my game first and she seemed fine.
Although i didn't play her long. We'll see.
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I saw the posts so now know about the speakers. Pary your club is excellent, whatcha talking about girl? I know I hate it when I didn't get to pull off everything I imagined for a sim or a building but that club is cool anyway! Or should I say hot, as in hotspot! It does not feel incomplete.

The balance of visitors to all the lots so far seems better than in the previous version and there were other sims in Pary's club, at least. The clubs anyway are no more empty than they are in Matkooskee or other worlds I've used extensively.

WR, yeah I knew you told Envie you weren't going to build or put anything on the world other than what was on there and you told Envie why. LOL--that's why I decided to try it--to see if anything cropped up if I did what a typical end user probably would end up doing. I only tried to place RFLong's existing houses, though. I went in and upgraded the beds and added coffins to the Vampire House and saved them to my house library. It was weird how version 1's save let me place the houses but version 2, didn't. Maybe the spawners hadn't yet spawned when I placed houses in Version 1.

LOL--my test sim in version 1 is a guy and my daughter thinks he looks like Luke Skywalker. I think he looks like her Fashion Fairytale Ken Doll. When I get time I'll try and post his picture. Sigh...I won't have time to play now but maybe later tonight. Though I'd better get my butt to bed on time tonight. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375321.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375321.page GMT I know she had mods working on her but I don't think they would play in a non mod world. I did have her installed in my game first and she seemed fine.
Although i didn't play her long. We'll see.
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The only mods utilized were those that enabled her to be created in the first place (not even sure but had something to do with autonomous woohoo/tryforbaby mod and possibly elder woohoo enabled). We used a mod when she was younger to help her walk without the lurchy simbot walk, but once she hit young adult that didn't matter anymore anyways - the stretching out thing went away.

If my suspicioun is correct - anyone playing her without mods will still see her as a sim on the outside but the game will register her as a simbot on the inside and for her stats.

I appreciate you putting her in, I would like play feedback from those not using mods on her. I still haven't found her yet btw...]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375438.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375438.page GMT I know she had mods working on her but I don't think they would play in a non mod world. I did have her installed in my game first and she seemed fine.
Although i didn't play her long. We'll see.
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The only mods utilized were those that enabled her to be created in the first place (not even sure but had something to do with autonomous woohoo/tryforbaby mod and possibly elder woohoo enabled). We used a mod when she was younger to help her walk without the lurchy simbot walk, but once she hit young adult that didn't matter anymore anyways - the stretching out thing went away.

If my suspicioun is correct - anyone playing her without mods will still see her as a sim on the outside but the game will register her as a simbot on the inside and for her stats.

I appreciate you putting her in, I would like play feedback from those not using mods on her. I still haven't found her yet btw...[/quote]

If she was a real Simbot then I have to take this world down. They will corrupt a world if placed in through CAW. . .

Maybe I put in the wrong Sim...

**Sorry, it's my fault, I should have read slower.

This is her, yes?
She's in one of the Tiny Dome Worker houses...she sounds and moves like a Sim.
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]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375457.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375457.page GMT ... I suppose it could be mods even making it appear that way in my games, though none of them advertise that as a functional feature.

Oh well at least she gets to live on your moon colony as a sim! (Sorry if I wasn't clear enough about her being a half/half sim/simbot on the download page for her).
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It's not big deal. I'll keep testing because I rather a working world is uploaded instead of a half finished world.
This will help. I already found another item to fix. just a floor tile. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375958.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4375958.page GMT
Anyway, I only ended up playing another couple of hours last night - all without incidence.

I saw that Sims you speak of- in one of the houses, and I have just the NRass Overwatch that is set to shut off stereos, tvs, and get rid of those junky EA cars that keep overriding everytown, but no other mods. But I have yet to bump into that Sims around town yet, nor have I played her house yet. I will check it out this afternoon though if you want, but I really think this version of the world is excellent. I also have a fondness for Pary's club - I did not realize that was hers, but noticed it was one of the clubs that was never empty when I went there and never got that snarky little pop up telling me basically to go to a hotter club. My Sims went there twice and saw at least 4 other Sims there when I arrived - mostly those colorful male Sims. For some reason I notice males out all over the place, but very few females - but of course Pary - hehehe. The only way to see DD is go to her house, and I saw Summer out just once, coming out of the hospital with a bundle of pink joy. She made it a family affair as her hubby and daughter came out of the hospital behind her and the baby. That was the first time I have seen a child age sim come out of the hospital with a parent. I have seen toddlers, but not child age - so that was a nice surprise and a new thing for me anyway. So far just Summer and my Sim Reggie has added to the worlds population, but the game has now added 8 families. ^ the during the long play yesterday and then 2 more families (well a family of a mom, dad, and child age boy and a family of one male that looks like he is from Egypt). The family took the high rise, and the single guy took one of those little worker domes.

Yep Rflong that wall does not interfer at all with Sims going in and out of the hospital. They don't seem to see it. I wouldn't have either if I didn't get down to door level and look in the lobby. It looks like it is behing the lobby desk. Sims only need to step inside the door so the wall is well away from where the sims need to go. Besides when I moved forward into the building itself I couldn't really see it dissecting the building so I think it is just an illusion off the rear wall of the above ground building, unlike trees that can actually be grabbed and moved, that wall does not seem to be a solid object under ground. So I really would not worry about it.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4376218.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4376218.page GMT

Yay~Good.

I have it on hold because I might have ported a Simbot altered Sim into the game. I don't think it is after going through CAS/Packaged and no mods. It talks like a Sim and walks like a Sim and has Sim needs...but I'm going to play it a long while to see if works fine or if I need to redo the world without the Sim.

I don't mind, the Exchange isn't working, MTS wouldn't want my world, and I want to know it works as near perfect as I can get it.

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I did read the page Envie put up about Anna in her sig. It would appear that perhaps a quick way to tell if she is indeed half simbot is by her diet, as it was indicated she ate scrap as a young adult, and I think she also had the shoe thing going on as a YA. I don't know how long it would take something like that to corrupt a world, if placed via CAW. If there is any question in your mind, Rflong, I'ld suggest omitting her as a precaution. I'm sure Envie would understand and wouldn't want her sim to be the possible downfall of a world.

Oh, my feedback before 2 more pics. LOL, I'm trying not to inundate the thread with pics but it sure would be easy to do so. Everything is still running smoothly, no stutters at all. The wall speakers were silent at the Clucky Chicken but I changed them to rockabilly. Somehow that genre just seemed appropriate for that club.

Since I mentioned how much I liked the appearance of steam rising from the grates near subway stations, here is what it looks like at night. It gives a really cool impression that a train just rumbled into the station. Awesome attention to detail.
[IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/16iwp4p.jpg[/IMG]

WR is trying to convince GW to try the vegetarian lifestyle
[IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/257j060.jpg[/IMG]

ETA - I, too, have an untouched start up save and will check it for Anna's sim because of WR's post.
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Rflong, I don't have Anna Sim in town either. Since I have MC installed, not only did I check the worker houses but also all female sims in the world. No Anna Sim shows up in MC either. By virtue of the fact that you did put her into the world, I'm not sure if her not being present in and of itself is a type of corruption. Only you can make the call but I think if it was my world, I would leave her out altogether so I wouldn't have to worry about some form of corruption rearing its head somewhere down the line.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4377934.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4377934.page GMT
I'm going to go look for Anna in my two existing saves and a third fresh one I'll start.

Save version two is stuffed full of houses. I put houses and sims on all the vacant lots. I left one house open for the game to populate. I even converted a couple of empty community lots to residential and put houses on them. I'll test the game this way because at least WR has already put the world through its paces as it is and found nothing wrong. I'll try it this way because I can see people trying this, so let's see how it rolls this way. All the houses are RFlong houses that I already play-tested at least 3 sim days apiece with no problems. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378428.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378428.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378433.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378433.page GMT
Actually the forums have been down for the past four hours, which is why you couldn't post. It's not like they fixed anything however, I am still getting Liam'ed to death! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378557.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378557.page GMT
I've played for several more sim days and there still isn't any lag or problem. Regarding Anna Sim, I decided to check the entire town population with MC and there definitely isn't a sim with that name in my game, apprently not even a simbot but something occurred to me during this search.

Tea_and_Blues put a simbot in the prepopulated Riverblossom Hills world. With him being the one to come up with the method to prepopulate, I couldn't imagine him doing this if there was a possibility of it corrupting the world. Hence, I went and found his tutorial in the MTS Wiki and it states that vampires and simbots can both be added safely. It is ghosts and mummies that will become hopelessly corrupted, according to the tutorial. It doesn't address half-human and half-simbot like Anna Sim, since something like that can only be created with the use of a mod and apparently there is some kind of problem since she didn't successfully make the journey down to this beta. It's sort of like it stripped her out completely like it strips out ghosts, leaving only remains to show as a description on urns and tombstones. Leastwise, I hope she isn't lurking in an invisible state of some sort ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378562.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378562.page GMT
I'd hate to think Anna would have caused any problems, but looks like she's MIA anyways (I can't find her either). She didn't make the portal

Yes, Anna's a 'frankensim' of sort (if anyone remembers half vamps from TS2) - but she's not really a hacked object or even a CC heavy sim. She's just a simbot with a sim's outer body (skin). Otherwise she's pretty much just like a simbot. If simbots are ok to upload, then so should Anna.

If anyone's interested, I could really use some feedback testing on her in a quarantined separate world. I have re-uploaded her and she's fine for me. I want to know if she retains her simbot/sim values for anyone else. If she works, she should have the following:

- simbot needs bars (grey) w/ hygiene barred out
- simbot voice
- simbot rockets in her feet instead of running
- eats scrap or food
- can smash objects (but animation is odd)
- does not short out in water, but won't go in unless you make her.
- immune to fire
- longer than normal lifebar like a simbot

(link is in my signature) thanks!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378714.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4378714.page GMT
I sure do feel dumb right now. :blush:
I put Anna Sim in the newest version after fixing the Subway station. I realized I didn't have her installed when I was placing the Sims in the first.

I am uploading the version with Anna Sim for you Envie. I won't be installing her this time (I found another sunken subway station but it's from me leveling the lot and not a game issue). I'll link to it once it's done.
~ Link: [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?za6x82igaar39xy]Moon Base Alpha w/Anna Sim[/url]
Remember to reset the Subway on the Military Lot before playing.

I'm reinstalling some older versions (without Sims) after reinstalling CAW to clean it of Sims. So, I'll have the final version up for testing with Sims.

I have to fix the Subways because Player Sims will get stuck after stepping out and some players do not understand nor know the reset code. I can't alter a world with Sim because of possible borking.

Sorry, she was only in my version... in case tl;dr

I should be done in a few hours. *fingers crossed* Final Version.

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Yay~Good.

I don't mind, the Exchange isn't working, MTS wouldn't want my world, and I want to know it works as near perfect as I can get it.

[/quote]
Are you for real, girl?!!!! Obviously your cold germs have attacked some of your brain cells. (Just kidding!)
Seriously, child, MTS would be lucky to get a creation as good as this. You should not dismiss yourself so lightly. I've been playing - and enjoying your world. And it's lovely! And just as good - indeed, better - than a lot of the stuff on MTS - or any of the other sites I've been to. And, believe me, I've been to them all!
So, don't cut yourself down. You're a talented artist, so get used to the idea! And if MTS - or any other site - is too blind to recognise and appreciate the fact, then the loss is theirs. But stop dismissing yourself so lightly! And repeat after me, "I'm wonderful! My worlds are wonderful! Get used to it!" ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4379374.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4379374.page GMT

Thanks for the pep talk.

Once the testing is done and clear... I'll get to work on the information MTS wants and see if they will accept the populated version.

*Must knock on wood now... worlds are in the works* ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4379546.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4379546.page GMT

Thanks for the pep talk.

Once the testing is done and clear... I'll get to work on the information MTS wants and see if they will accept the populated version.

*Must knock on wood now... worlds are in the works* [/quote]
The creator guidelines for submitting worlds on MTS have recently been changed, so you don't need to include images of every lot any more.

I think you should try to upload it there, as it will get seen by a lot more people. It's a unique world and I'm sure many will enjoy it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4379759.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4379759.page GMT
I will read the new rules for uploading there. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380400.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380400.page GMT The creator guidelines for submitting worlds on MTS have recently been changed, so you don't need to include images of every lot any more.

I think you should try to upload it there, as it will get seen by a lot more people. It's a unique world and I'm sure many will enjoy it. [/quote]

I totally agree that you should definitely try uploading there. Once you do, I think that you will find that you are one of their preferred artists. A whole new community will discover just how good you are, and I have absolutely no doubt that you will become one of their top creators.

That said, there is something you do need to do first. Take care of yourself!!! Everyone on this thread has been talking about how sick you've been. Well.... Get some sleep, get rid of your virus, and let life as we know it, go on while you get well. I might not know much about a lot of things, but health issues I understand. Critical care RN with years and years of experience - as in, I was around since the time of dinosaurs. So get well, girl. People want this world done, but they can wait. Your health is much more important.
Blessings on your day! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380547.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380547.page GMT
Dangnabit I wanted so badly for this post to go through last night so RFLong could see it before working on another edition of the world. Stupid forum glitches. I'm so mad and frustrated since I stayed up til 2 a.m. testing and found that to report.

In other news, Pary's club was hopping but had no mixologist on duty so I popped the bar out and replaced it with an identically recolored one and the mixologist appeared immediately on the next visit. Funny I didn't notice the mixologist being missing the other times I visited but I was so stunned to see so many sims in a club (almost never happens!) that I was busy talking and flirting and didn't even think to check out the bar. I finally did it when my sim was really hungry.

I'll have to see if the mixologist was missing in my Version 1 Save. I'll go check and report back.

I'm sorry Envie I'd like to test Anna for you but there are some things about my game I'm not so sure about and am leery of testing something that "exotic" for now. Especially when I'm in the middle of testing this world specifically. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380634.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380634.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380739.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380739.page GMT
I think I need to check now and make sure I have the most up to date version of MB to test. I think I do but I'd better make sure.

Okay I THINK I have the right version. Is there just the one issue of the populated test version so far? I have Moon Base Delta as the file name with no other descriptors.

Is there going to also be an unpopulated final version released? Will that one be Moon Base Charlie? Just trying to keep all the versions straight in my head. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380831.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380831.page GMT Thanks, you're right and I will take better care.

....

Hi, SS
I think I got those flowers at the Nectary today. If you can check again (I'll check too)
Yes, Charlie is unpopulated and Delta has Sims. Only 14 families and no, I didn't make elaborate back stories.

[quote]I have Moon Base Delta as the file name with no other descriptors. [/quote]

No descriptions on the world file? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380927.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380927.page GMT I'm sorry Envie I'd like to test Anna for you but there are some things about my game I'm not so sure about and am leery of testing something that "exotic" for now. Especially when I'm in the middle of testing this world specifically. [/quote]

No worries! I figured out why she doesn't have her simbot traits anyways - its all about how you upload to the exchange. If you upload a sim from the CAS, it gets uploaded as a .sim file and is a stripped down version of the original - plain ol' vanilla pudding sim! That's why vampires don't transfer over that method either. In order for someone to get Anna with all of her simbot weirdness, I have to upload her as a sim3pack file - or as a 'family' file. This is done from Edit Town mode.

Sooooo - not to derail Rflong's beta testing thread - but Anna's not a threat to anyone's game (testing world or otherwise) in the format she's currently in. I still have no idea why she does not show up in the saved sims of Moon Base Delta though. She should have come across the same as the rest of the ported sims.

I will be re-uploading Anna as a family unit/file if anyone's still interested in testing her. I believe if your game can play a simbot, it can play a simdroid just fine - but I won't beg anyone haha.

Also, I totally agree with other posters - rf your stuff is definitely quality building and should be on MTS. I think ehaught58 should put his stuff up there too. You guys are talented. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380931.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380931.page GMT
No worries! I figured out why she doesn't have her simbot traits anyways - its all about how you upload to the exchange. If you upload a sim from the CAS, it gets uploaded as a .sim file and is a stripped down version of the original - plain ol' vanilla pudding sim! That's why vampires don't transfer over that method either. In order for someone to get Anna with all of her simbot weirdness, I have to upload her as a sim3pack file - or as a 'family' file. This is done from Edit Town mode.

Sooooo - not to derail Rflong's beta testing thread - but Anna's not a threat to anyone's game (testing world or otherwise) in the format she's currently in. I still have no idea why she does not show up in the saved sims of Moon Base Delta though. She should have come across the same as the rest of the ported sims.

I will be re-uploading Anna as a family unit/file if anyone's still interested in testing her. I believe if your game can play a simbot, it can play a simdroid just fine - but I won't beg anyone haha.

Also, I totally agree with other posters - rf your stuff is definitely quality building and should be on MTS. I think ehaught58 should put his stuff up there too. You guys are talented. [/quote]

Hi,
I guess you missed my earlier post.
It was my fault. I redid the world with Sims because of the Subway and was testing while I read your post. So, I had the version with your Sim (I had forgotten to download it the first time).
I uploaded the world with her in it for you. You'll have to fix the Military lot Subway needs to be moved a bit. She does act like a Sim while I played her.
[url]http://www.mediafire.com/?za6x82igaar39xy[/url]
]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380975.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4380975.page GMT (in fact its better she was until we solved the simbot/simdroid issue)

She will be just a normal sim in your world or any other right now in the format I've uploaded her. But now that I've figured out why - I can upload another version that should transfer over her simbot traits if anyone's interested in a real simdroid/androsim (can't decide what to call it haha)

Thanks for all your hard work - your world is looking better than ever. I agree, Pary's club is very nice. I personally wouldn't worry about the '5 club' wishes for some sims - that's a Late Night thing, assuming people would be playing a giant city map. For those wanting to create smaller worlds (islands and such) it just isn't realistic to expect that many clubs/bars on the map - in addition to all the other new venues needed... salons, consignment, etc etc. It fills up fast. Sims won't die if they can't go to 5 clubs

I love some of the features of LN, hate others. I despise paparazzi in any form outside of the city/Bridgeport theme. I use a mod to keep them away when playing my other-worlds like tropical islands and now moonbase too.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381275.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381275.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381305.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381305.page GMT When you get your Anna ready, let me know. I would love to play her. Have generic "alien" sims that I am creatining to place in this world, but would like to try your Anna too. Will play her in Sunset first.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381678.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381678.page GMT When you get your Anna ready, let me know. I would love to play her. Have generic "alien" sims that I am creatining to place in this world, but would like to try your Anna too. Will play her in Sunset first.[/quote]

Cool thanks! I think she (and others like her on the way... they are ahem, 'growing up' atm) would love to live on Moon Base Delta and with their simbot insides, would adapt well to the alien atmosphere. I'd be curious to find out if she plays as intended in both an EA world like Sunset Valley as well as this player made one. I'm playing her just fine in it now, but wondering if she uploads / downloads ok to others. Here's the new download link on the Exchange:

http://www.thesims3.com/assetDetail.html?assetId=3589667]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381717.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381717.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381964.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4381964.page GMT
Rflong, got the new file and am testing. I started with Tatiana Madrid today and haven't done much yet because I had her marry a sim. LOL, I got her a job at the diner, then a cooking class, then onto City Hall for charisma class. After her class I noticed a sim run into the glass pillar lot next door and on a whim sent her over there to visit. She pushed a button with a male name attached, he came down and by the end of the evening they were married. Interestingly enough, when I checked his stats with MC while they were talking his occupation was shown as magician. Of course, after they were married he was listed as unemployed. Now, however, he keeps having stuck motives and I've reset him 4 times. I decided to quit and see if a reload of the save fixes that. Obviously, though, it's an EA glitch and not the world since his occupation was originally shown as magician.

What small amount of time spent in the world so far has been problem free, with the exception of those motives. I'm going back to play more now. BTW, your description of the world when new game is clicked and the world selected is showing and very comprehensive, I might add. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382186.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382186.page GMT
Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya? (Was that from Saturday Night Live?) ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382432.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382432.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382503.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382503.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382516.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382516.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382522.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382522.page GMT [/quote]Ahh, yeah THAT one I did understand. I understand what happened to Anna's simbot traits. So...it works like vampirism that way--can only be shared intact by sharing the household instead of a CAS sim, right? Bummer, sort of, but at least it can be shared. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382541.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382541.page GMT
I got to say when I couldn't get back on here last night and did not know if there was or wasn't a new version, I decided to go give Mr. C's Simwood a run. It took no time at all to annoy me as he utulized those annoying papparazzi as a hero to save his Vampire tower locked princess and made the bedroom for her unaccessible with a totally borked wall I think was made with Caw object walls which when you hoovered over it, it said floor, and it was a wall that did not line up or allow access to an elevator behind it. Between this sim having a fit and the hoards of papparazzi that kept getting in to where she was and were unable to get out, I nearly pulled my hair out. But the world looks good enough, just don't play in it. I finally just went to edit town and moved the Princess into a regular house, as lets face it papparazzi cannot work as a hero to save a princess as the friendship thing does not go up very easily, never mind the princess getting cooked because she couldn't get inside. Plus all she wants to do is keep reading this one stupid book she has.

I couldn't take but about an hour of this and shut down the pc, and just decided to go back and play with Delta some more. It was like a breath of fresh air and quickly got rid of my anxiety without me needing to take a xanax, as that was how annoyed I was with Simwood.

I advise my fellow testers if you decide to give Alex's Simwood a go, steel your nerves first, as it also has quite a bit of other weirdness with him using world objects in his builds. I also go a two minute freeze after moving out the princess and sending her for a job. I saw nothing that might have caused the freeze, the sim did not give any signal anything was amiss - so I just think in his zeal to force the game to play out a scenario it is not programmed to do, may have been why it froze. It did come out of it on it's own , but I don't like any world that will do that to my pc.

I adore Alex, he's a sweet and well meaning young fellow, and has a great zeal to create wonderful things - I think he could do well in the world of game developement one of these days, but he also needs to learn you at least need mods to alter game play as something needs to tell the program what to do. It's a shame as the world look pretty good - a bit dark - but not bad for the period and has a few sims. Hopefully he'll get those world objects though off that castle and stop trying to make the sims something they are not really capable of.

But like I said going back to Delta was like a breath of fresh air and I enjoyed another 3 plus hours of flawless play in Delta.

Rflong, my sims have a fish on their wall. Is there supposed to be a fish on the Writins wall? Just checking. It did make me LOL though.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382630.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382630.page GMT

So if anyone feels like downloading her, I'd sure appreciate feedback.

Rflong - I'm sorry again for jumping on the coattails of your Moonbase with this - I'm just so dang excited to have a world where Anna and others like her fit in!

I haven't run across any other glitches (except that one subway) since I've been playing delta today btw. It's great!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382642.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382642.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382734.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382734.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382766.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382766.page GMT
I had actually saw your post about Anna like a day or so before you mentioned her here and had already thought about trying her out. In sims 2 I had tried out the humanized Simbots in that and thought they looked cool, but they had 2 problems - they couldn't have babies - neither male or female and sometimes their heads would revert back to simbot but would still have the human face mask which really looked odd. But with Anna born in game I don't see that happening, I just wonder if the earlier problems you mentioned she had as a child and teen might resurface when she ages again or just randomly like with Sims 2 remakes. I figure if I put her on the Isle of Sims as I know it plays flawlessly, she will be tested the most fairly without a lot of other things going on in busier worlds. It's quite the little peaceful island for sure and another of Rflongs earlier creations. One of my favorites when I want serenity and peace.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382878.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382878.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382891.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4382891.page GMT
I had actually saw your post about Anna like a day or so before you mentioned her here and had already thought about trying her out. In sims 2 I had tried out the humanized Simbots in that and thought they looked cool, but they had 2 problems - they couldn't have babies - neither male or female and sometimes their heads would revert back to simbot but would still have the human face mask which really looked odd. But with Anna born in game I don't see that happening, I just wonder if the earlier problems you mentioned she had as a child and teen might resurface when she ages again or just randomly like with Sims 2 remakes. I figure if I put her on the Isle of Sims as I know it plays flawlessly, she will be tested the most fairly without a lot of other things going on in busier worlds. It's quite the little peaceful island for sure and another of Rflongs earlier creations. One of my favorites when I want serenity and peace.[/quote]

Hi - WR ... I appreciate your offer to download and play the Androsim version of Anna, thanks! I totally agree with keeping her out of the testing versions of the Moon Base too. It's just a good idea to keep anything unusual out until the final version is done and working ok. I'm happy rflong put the sim version of her in

Also, yes I do remember the issues you speak of from TS2. Anna and her kind do have issues, but only as children/teens. The skin mesh doesn't work right (the game assumes its a simbot which is of course tall. The weirdest glitch was not being able to keep poor Anna fed well enough as a teen. She could not yet eat scrap (I'm guessing that's an adult only trait for simbots since there are no baby or young simbots) - and she was constantly hungry.

But anyways - I think she's working just fine in regular play testing, but I need to hear from someone not me, with a different system and game version running (not modded), so I do appreciate your offer. I also do not know if Anna will be able to reproduce or not. I suspect not as again, the game assumes she's a simbot on the insides at least.


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Have just downloaded your Anna, and will start playing her tonight in Sunset Valley. Will eventually move her into the final version of MB. Anyway, can't play right now, because one of my feline furballs is missing and they're predicting snow. So, off to the great outdoors to look for the Brat! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4383234.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4383234.page GMT
In the Nectary one Sunflower vase is still embedded. It's in the island section to the right of the register. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4383769.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4383769.page GMT

~DD, Thanks. Okay~The Magician had stuck motives and he actually lived in an apartment? How strange. I didn't think they lived anywhere.
I also had one Sim meet the Magician but he was at the Park.

~SS, You're right, I should have put a number or indicator on the version. I didn't.
Got it, 1 Sunflower vase still embedded. Ah, Island section~ I didn't move that. I saw the feathers in the counter by the window.

~Envie, I don't mind you talking about your Sim here. She fits right in.

~WR... fish? What fish? I think it's a happy coincidence~ A really fun one though.

Okay... This sounds good. I'm going to go back in every lot while in game to check again but as long as there are no routing issue, lags, stutters or freezes... I'm happy with it.


**Oh, crud. I didn't give them jobs. :la sigh:
At least I'm getting comfortable with the Porter mod and have learned how to use it a little. La, I need better lists. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4384023.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4384023.page GMT

Okay off to check out the new version of Delta.



By the way Envie, Anna is on the Isle of Sims but I didn't get any playing time in with her yet as my hubby came in with grocery bags and I had to go put away some things, so I will try her later tonight for a while after I give the new Delta a work out. hehehe]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4385001.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4385001.page GMT
I can't get the magician's motives unstuck, leastwise, so far. Reloading the save didn't do it, so he may just be a glitched sim. I was going to move them into the Simbot house to see if a move helped but they didn't have quite enough money. I ended up just reseting him periodically Yes, when Tatiana went to the call box there was a list of names that could be rung. He answered with the message of "I'll be right down". I don't know how the game engine determines which NPC's will live in the hidden apts. but he was one of the occupants in that building.

Don't stress over the "used to be a magician." It has to be an EA thing and not the world. I'll go back to that house later and check on him.

Everyone is routing everywhere I send them but I haven't been too many places yet with this restart. No stutters either.

SS86's post is a good reminder of why it is good to have multiple sets of eyes testing a beta world. I did go to the Nectary lot and I didn't notice the sunflower vase embedded in the counter When I play again later this evening I'll take a sim back and make myself find it ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4385039.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4385039.page GMT
It's just a happy coincidence that you got it. Yay!
Pictures? Woot!

I don't know how I missed the flowers myself. They're right there. But I do remember the Gnome standing on or next to that counter.
It is wonderful to have so many patient, helpful, and nice testers.

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Have just downloaded your Anna, and will start playing her tonight in Sunset Valley. Will eventually move her into the final version of MB. Anyway, can't play right now, because one of my feline furballs is missing and they're predicting snow. So, off to the great outdoors to look for the Brat! [/quote]

I'm looking forward to hearing how she plays. She should add some interesting flavor to any household. She is also a hopeless romantic so I'm curious if she'll actually be able to get married and have a family. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4385752.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4385752.page GMT
The Abandoned Car lounge still has the speakers set to custom music so no music is heard in the club. I changed it, easy enough to do now that I know how, but don't know if you want to do it for final release, or list it as an issue for players to correct.

I also realized that both the apartment buildings are called 2 East Glass Pillar. For clarity sake, it seems like one of them should have a different name. I know they are EA buildings, or building is most likely accurate, but the name can be changed, right? I didn't try but will when I go back in.

Also, the community lot at 13 Goopy Byway (LOVE the street name, lol) doesn't have any kind of building designation in live map view. When clicked, it shows only the address and the only option is visit lot. In Edit Town I see it is marked no visitors but that's it. This may be intentional on your part so that a downloader can decide what type lot they want it to be, I just wasn't sure and thought I should mention it.

That's all I have for now. It's running really smoothly. I don't have an overabundance of kids in the world but at least SP isn't killing off toddlers in this version, not so far anyway. I think the additional housing has really helped. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4387769.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4387769.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4388489.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4388489.page GMT
I wouldn't have finished it nor found so much without you all. I'm going to upload the finial version soon~ (buildings renamed, a few more fish in the SOCL houses, flowers, stereos..) then redo the Sims and follow the list when adding them.

Lol~ I didn't remember the first street names and thought new ones were called for. I did leave the lots as No Visitors. The Player gets to decide what to do with them.



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She did throw me for a loop when she got hungry and thought of a scrap pile. Then she whipped a pipe out of the air and pushed it down her throat with out losing a beat.

Too funny.

But that strange walk does take some getting used too, but overall, I really like Anna. She seems like she may be fun to play. I absolutely had no problem with her though and no problem with the world with her on it. I even added a good 14 other sims and it all played great. Isle of Sims is a very stable and smooth running world to start with and her presence did not change that at all.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4389096.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4389096.page GMT
I was surprised too when you started testing. Glad you like it and had fun. ~And that your eyes are better. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4389429.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4389429.page GMT
Anyway, I absolutely love this world. The time and effort you have put into each detail is beyond words. The EA team could take a few lessons from you. So thank you for sharing it with all of us.

And thanks again for the gift.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4389845.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4389845.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390316.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390316.page GMT

Seriously though, you`re such a trooper, awesome, and dedicated to the cause. Wonderful ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390505.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390505.page GMT

Awesomeness~Please tell me it's a Chocolate Award covered in gold foil...

I would like to thank all the little things which made this so hard. The gremlins in my Computer who gave such annoying freezes, the updates which probably didn't want my world to work. And especially CAW who puts up a good fight.

It's more like bulldog-ishly stubborn. And I expected it after the other worlds which gave me problems.

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Seriously though, you`re such a trooper, awesome, and dedicated to the cause. Wonderful [/quote]

Funny! I can see everyone gathered at Sunset Valley City Hall for the award ceremony, with a celebratory meal at the Bistro to follow. General Neihart (he's my astronaut sim) would no doubt be firing up his engines, preparatory to taking Rflong up to her vacation crate - no, make that a dome! She deserves a dome with a garden - for her 2-week getaway. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390712.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390712.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390951.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390951.page GMT It would be funny because they'd have to drag me kicking and screaming to get into a Space Shuttle. I'm a tiny bit claustrophobic.

And doggone it, I've exceeded my upload limit again. I'll see what I can delete so I can upload it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390955.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390955.page GMT
Rflong, thank you for the gift! I was so surprised to get something and I don't feel like I did enough to deserve it. Besides, testing your worlds is always such a pleasure. The testing time is actually a gift from you to me.

I have to say that the new moon world goes beyond being awesome. There just aren't enough superlative words to describe how great this world is. Not only is the technical such as sculpting and terrain painting excellent, the builds are perfect for the world and the attention to little details is mind blowing. I've previously mentioned steam from grates near subway stations but I loved other little touches such as solar panels near streetlights, too. Your worlds are always so polished.

MTS would be lucky if you select them for an additional site for uploading your world. The site continually stresses that they offer downloads of the highest quality and choose quality over quantity. There is no doubt you meet that criteria. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390962.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4390962.page GMT

Thanks. And I did see the picture~ it's a good shot, the steam showed well at night.~ forgot to mention.

You're welcome and thank you so much for helping.

I will have to upload it to this account. I guess it's a good think EA messed up my other account so I now have this one to fill up with Stuff.
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I did build a house for this world that I'll test and if it work okay I'll share the link to the upload in my thread. It was to replace my Dome House that had route fail in front of it.

I have a few pictures also to share for this thread. At least I have to share "Luke Skywalker". I don't think he looks like Luke but my daughter does. We're still arguing whether he looks like her Fashion Fairytale Ken or Luke in his black Jedi clothes. (She is slowly getting better, by the way. Going back to school sort of has helped, though that has its own source of stress, to be sure).

Anyway when I'm not so punked out tired, I'll post them. I got to play more in the world last night but have nothing to report other than fun fun fun. I'm really wiped out today because my hubby was up coughing and sneezing and kept me up half the night. Even after I took refuge on the extra bed in my daughter's room I could still hear the poor guy. I don't know how he dragged himself into work this morning. I hope you are feeling better from your own virus. It couldn't have been easy being sick AND working on a whole world. How do you keep track of everything you need to fix and check when your head is stuffed? Amazing!

Congratulations in perservering and resurrecting this special world for all of us who so dearly loved the concept. I know EA already featured you but I hope they can give this world the recognition it deserves, too. And if you upload to MTS, I wish you all the best and can say MTS would be lucky to get this world.

WR--words can not express how much fun it was to have you along for the testing of this world. I so enjoyed the Charlie's Angels reference and feeling a part of that. I am so glad you've come to love Moon Base as much as DD and I have loved it. It was also nice to "meet" the other testers. Envie, with all your mods and stuff you sure bring a different perpective to testing and it was very informative and interesting to read your take on things. ctx43801, lol--I have to name a simbot after you! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4391838.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4391838.page GMT
You and your family get better soon.

~I got to snuggle up and sleep in while hubby cooked and brought me stuff in bed. I'm doing much better, no worries.

~Uhg. I read what MTS wants for worlds built with lots and Sims. So many pictures...and words and lists. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4391943.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4391943.page GMT
The first ever (known by sims anyways) off-planet colonization project is off and running!!

This is exciting and ground-breaking for sim-kind everywhere!

Really though, great job - and THANK YOU for the gift - those pants will look hot on Anna, haha! I posted this as a comment on your profile page, but I did not expect anything in return for the privilege of testing your great world. Moon Base Delta is a gift to me in itself. I have seriously been searching the entire Simuverse for something like this. Now my newly created Androsims will have a place to move and colonize in peace - with usefulness to their community as they can work tirelessly, have long lives, and don't require any water... what a perfect colony worker subject for a Moon Base, right?!

Oh and I wanted to comment to Johnny:

[quote=Johnnywr]...lest we forget, also, a last dance with Kevin Bacon, whilst we stand in a polite circle offering an appreciative round of applause. The buffet tables will of course offer only the best nibbles available to humanity. We raise our glass...to the mighty moonbound Miss Rflong [/quote]

Johnny you're a very funny guy - thanks for making me laugh today, I needed it! (sent a friend request to you btw). There are many of us lining up, offworld work visas in hand, ready to launch into the next frontier of the simuverse! Huge thanks definitely go out to rflong for pioneering the dream!!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4392239.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4392239.page GMT
She did throw me for a loop when she got hungry and thought of a scrap pile. Then she whipped a pipe out of the air and pushed it down her throat with out losing a beat.

Too funny.

But that strange walk does take some getting used too, but overall, I really like Anna. She seems like she may be fun to play. I absolutely had no problem with her though and no problem with the world with her on it. I even added a good 14 other sims and it all played great. Isle of Sims is a very stable and smooth running world to start with and her presence did not change that at all.[/quote]


Reg, thanks SO MUCH for this feedback - it means a lot to me! Your descriptions of what Anna's doing on your Isle of Sims made me laugh - two good laughs today, I'm doing great! Anna should be right at home on that island as she was born and raised on an island too (My Elements Isle tribal project... her Mother Sable was a member of my Earth Clan). It's also cool to hear how friendly / loveable she is. She spent 3 times as long as an infant/child (aging up like simbot) so she got a LOT of extra attention from her parents. I think this made her very friendly.

I'm so thrilled to hear Anna uploaded and downloaded ok to someone else and is a viable play subject.

I realize she has a strange lurching walk - that's a quirk of her simbot insides. There's a mod (.package file) over at ModtheSims that can stop that if you don't want it. I use it, forgot I had it on there - hubby loaded that when I was spending time 'growing' Anna up from a baby and she started doing that as soon as she learned to walk and it stretched her all out like taffy! (see screenshot of it in my offsite blog http://twistedenvie.blogspot.com/2010/12/anna-sim-androsim.html).

Its that weirdness, and the fact teen androsims can't eat scrap yet which made me put the warning up that you should not play one of these sims as a child/teen. They need to be played from Young Adult onward only.

Hubby's now finished his own androsim and I uploaded him "Tech Noir" to the Exchange. I expect he's very much different and odd, considering the looks my husband gave him as an adult. He has the same parents as Anna, so they are technically brother and sister though not in name or looks. Anna's mama Sable is too old to have anymore children now so Anna and Tech are the end of the prototype generation. I have 8 new Sims mamas with Androsim children growing up on Plutarian at the moment. They will be boarding the first shuttles to Moon Base Delta as new colonists! SO EXCITED!!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4392337.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4392337.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4392631.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4392631.page GMT
Well, lets see how other simmers take to the quirkiness of an Androsim... I have announced her officially to the Sims3 Community over at the Creative Corner in this post:

[url]http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/325396.page[/url]

I also gave mad props, and a link back to this thread there for rf's Moon Base, so that should drum up some more interest in it for her upload to the Exchange.

Thanks again and I'll be uploading more Androsims to my studio (Now officially known as ES42 Laboratories, hehe). They are still young and growing. I prefer not to artificially age them up (so they get good hidden traits hopefully), so it takes a lot of playtime to get them aged to Young Adult since simbots live very long lives, haha.

Moon Base Delta is about to get a lot more lively with lots os Anna's friends running around. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4392851.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4392851.page GMT

I hope to get the world on the Exchange soon. It might take a while since I keep getting a system error.
It happened the same with Winter Wonderland. That world took two days to finally upload.

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I hope to get the world on the Exchange soon. It might take a while since I keep getting a system error.
It happened the same with Winter Wonderland. That world took two days to finally upload.

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Good luck getting it uploaded to the Exchange. EA really needs to work on their community sites bandwidth or whatever keeps causing so many problems! I can rarely get to multiple pages without errors, timeouts, etc.

I'm going to wait and download your final version before starting the great androsim colonization project. For now, my newest generation of babies are happily growing up on Plutarian Island. See you moonside!
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You and your family get better soon.

~I got to snuggle up and sleep in while hubby cooked and brought me stuff in bed. I'm doing much better, no worries.

~Uhg. I read what MTS wants for worlds built with lots and Sims. So many pictures...and words and lists. [/quote]So glad to hear you're feeling better and that hubby was taking good care of you.

Oh yeah, MTS--my great heartbreaker. They made me, and they broke me. The breaking point for me came after completing a Married With Children set of Sims. I did the entire Bundy family, minus the dog, lol...and even made their house--which I didn't try to submit at that time. It took me some ridiculous amount of time--something like TWO YEARS to get it up to MY standards. And it was a seriously good finished product, if I do say so myself. I went to upload and I got rejected because of some custom content that their automated system said was included and was prohibited due to Rose's terms of use. It's a long story as to why I couldn't strip off this cc, but at the time I couldn't get hold of a live person to help me get past this issue and get it uploaded. I was devastated and ended up sharing my work on another forum. The consolation was I got a compliment from the wickedly adorable Kavar at the other forum! MTS did change their upload system so you could interact with a person and get continuous advice and feedback. But their requirements (which I DO agree with as far as credits go) are so onerous and I had so much trouble with my vision problems at the time and trying to use their online form system. I actually "retired" with a HUGE inventory of my best work ever, totally unshared and that has never seen the light of day, rather than try to do the heavy work necessary to comply with their terms and still risk getting a really pick moderator who would reject the whole shebang anyway for reasons I would likely not agree with and resent. Then my Sims2 game crashed and I have never gotten around to reinstalling it to photograph and share my work.

Ah...so tragic. Of course now I could use Media Fire but really, I loved having a portfolio of my stuff at MTS. It was my home for years and as I said, I DO understand why they had the requirements they impose. Sigh...but I'm too danged old and tired to be dealing with all that. And as I said, sometimes you get a moderator who has completely different standards from yours and they make you redo and resubmit your work until you want to throw your computer out the window.

Well, in light of what you said, I can understand now why they don't have very many worlds submitted to their site. It is a shame. The standards that served them well for Sims2 seem to be biting them in the butt for Sims3, sometimes. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4397472.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4397472.page GMT [url=http://www.thesims3.com/assetDetail.html?assetId=3597649][img]http://llnw.thesims3.com/sims3_asset/sims3_asset/thumb/shard000/000/035/976/49/large.jpg[/img][/url]

Delta is being updated to fix the jobless Sims right now... so please be patient.

...
That's a terrible thing. To be crushed like that and no help from them.
I do have some maps uploaded there for TS2 but only because it was on my list of "Things to Do Before Quitting TS2."

And I really do understand how MTS needs to check the uploads but how am I to tell them where the routing paint is? Do they want a picture which can't be done?
And the lots don't matter if they are Residential or Community but what is on them is important. Luckily I did keep to a uniform size which would make listing them easier.

And it says the houses have to meet their upload standards for houses but my houses were build more along the lines of Standard Temp housing. Pre-Fabs and I don't think I have 5 houses which are "Up to their Standards."

I do have the 5 Community lots which I think are wonderful (on the inside) besides Pary's Club which is great outside too...but there again they were built to the idea of a Strong Fabricated kind of Uniform look. Which doesn't give many unique and special builds.

I just think I'll let it stay on MediaFire.
Or put it on my Blog. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4398263.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4398263.page GMT I would put it up on the blog, and leave the link to mediafire. That way no one can tell you that you have to alter your world or its contents just to fit in with some insane rules.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4398500.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4398500.page GMT No wonder MTS doesn't have many world available. Boy, they are missing out, imho.

I have no heartburn with mediafire...probably obvious by all the testing I've done for you and others.

BTW, Rflong, if you haven't seen the CAW Lane thread this morning (I haven't read it yet today), you might want to hold off on installing V17 of the Overwatch mod. There has been a report of hopelessly freezing a save on Twallan's thread and DM had the same thing happen to him last night. Since you've already been faced with computer problems, I wanted to mention it because you might think a problem was computer based rather than mod based.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4399365.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4399365.page GMT

Which mod is the OverWatch? I have the latest Porter, DebugEnabler, and the Master Controller. Which I had to update just to use to install Sims.

I'll play the latest with Sims... which I just finished . . . to see if it freezes.

And change the title to testing again. :la sigh:

I really am glad they are making mods, don't get me wrong. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4399421.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4399421.page GMT I would put it up on the blog, and leave the link to mediafire. That way no one can tell you that you have to alter your world or its contents just to fit in with some insane rules.[/quote]

I totally agree. I've downloaded things from them that, at first glance looked pretty good, then I quickly learned weren't. Done a lot of deleting in my day! And, I've often wondered why they had so few worlds on their site. Well, now we know!
After reading all of the comments that you ladies have about MTS, it's a wonder that any designer would even bother. It's a shame, because the quality of work on this world - by all who particiapated in its creation - is excellent.

But word-of-mouth will get the message out there. And, your reputations precede you. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4399849.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4399849.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4399858.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4399858.page GMT
Thanks for the info! I just downloaded this mod after reading earlier posts by you. Will check to see which version I have. Thank you!
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~I do understand why modthesims must have standards. I think it's more my fault for not researching first. I did know I wanted to have Sims in the world and would want to host it somewhere.
There are wonderful worlds from people like kiwi_tea who are eloquent and great with words. I, fortunately, am more gooder with smileys.

It's just more work. Now I'm off to test this latest of Deltas... the last I just uploaded and installed, well, I see forgot to reset their names on the lots- again. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400548.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400548.page GMT Or the fact that the POINT of Coconut Island was not to have to worry about work and school. Talk about stifling creativity! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400611.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400611.page GMT Id like to know how you changed the moon to look like Earth though, thats simply amazing.
And on the subject of MTS. I used to upload stuff there back when I played sims 2 too but honestly, after trying to deal with their new standards for sims 3 content, I just dont want to bother anymore, I totaly understand where Summersong is coming from. Who wants to spend weeks or monthes even trying recreate something for their standerds after being rejected again and again. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400646.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400646.page GMT
Hm, feeling oh so confident now.
...
I got the information from stw here: http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/238319.page

I edited a picture of the earth and then imported it into the world files.
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It is odd, back in Sims 2 when I wanted something unique and different in the way of Sims, and houses, and especially skins, it was always MTS I headed to. I am still grateful to them for finding Kiwi Tea (Tea and Blues) as is I'm sure creators, because it was he that developed the method to populate the worlds - but it seems the buck stops there. Instead of being innovative as MTS was always considered, they are becoming like elderly old people stuck in their rut of sameness and one size fits all retoric. A shame as they are the most well known of all user created websites, but they lose big time when they set a certain standard for worlds like that.

I do know if I want a good world, regardless of what the theme is, just go to where ever Rflong posts. Too bad MTS doesn't realize this!!!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400950.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400950.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400965.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4400965.page GMT
Moon Base, and other unusual worlds that don't fit a 'mold' should get the attention and appreciation they deserve. I hope here you'll be able to have lots of fans and colonist sims for it.

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But confession--I discovered you via MTS. It was in a discussion about the special effects or shimmer that could be placed in a world. Someone posted a link to your thread on Oasis Island. I followed that link and found your work and was hooked on your work. And on this forum. I found myself less and less on MTS and more and more on here.

At some point you could possibly upload one of your CAW files there to get exposure via their site. They seem not to have as stringent requirements for CAW files.

I do feel a bit bad like I am trashing MTS and I don't mean to because I owe them so much for so many years of fun and providing an outlet for the work I did get up there. I deeply appreciate what they did for the cc artist community. I'm just frustrated because I think they could be more flexible and adapt better to the unique issues of Sims3. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4403605.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4403605.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4404446.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4404446.page GMT It's the one I'm testing now.
Each time I do a version with Sims and it needs to be redone for something, I have to delete all the files and start from a saved point. So, each time is like a new test with Populated versions. I can't just go in and edit a lot or Sim once I place them and save. And I did forget their jobs... then to rename the lots.
I write lists and then don't look at them.

I hope this is the last final version. *knock on wood*


I put a 3 at the end of this rar file.
There are a few new Aliens... ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4405096.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4405096.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4405135.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4405135.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4405143.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4405143.page GMT

EDIT...what, more aliens? Oh great...well maybe I can't pass up Delta then. I want to see. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4405259.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4405259.page GMT
Rflong, I simply couldn't resist, so feel free to slap me on the wrist for testing with a cc item. I now present the newest vehicle to grace the moon

***** Cobalt is driving to the library to read a pregnancy book
[IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/dh3m6f.jpg[/IMG]

Parking it, she managed to clip the Big Lemon
[IMG]http://i52.tinypic.com/2wq8u9k.jpg[/IMG]

Am I having fun or what???

ETA - Why in the heck did it censor V A S H I ???]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4406665.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4406665.page GMT
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Summer, don't feel bad, no one is trashing MTS. Disagreeing with their guildelines for uploading worlds, and pointing out that they are missing out on some terrific and unusual builds because of them, doesn't equate to trashing, its merely disagreement. I use the site a lot and some of my favourite mods come from there, that I could not play without.
I just think that their overly rigid guidelines on worlds leaves them short in that regard.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4407892.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4407892.page GMT

Awww, now that is so cute - the little space ship.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4408080.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4408080.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4408106.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4408106.page GMT
I consider this A final. Just because I might have missed a name, not restartmotives, have edited it one too many times and it goes ca-boowie...
It's test final until I don't find anything missing with the Sims added version.

So, as long as I test it for over three game weeks and it plays fine then it will be the last.

Did you all see my Single Alien Peacock Sims? I just had to have more males and yet I don't know why.

No Bee DeLee isn't in there. I needed a new Sim to test out the new lot.

I don't know whats up with me but I've been sleeping a lot more. Which could be great because I used not sleep enough but now I sure do miss out on all the fun chatter.

And WoOT! A hovercraft! Excellent.
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Do you have a download link for the space ship, please?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4409011.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4409011.page GMT http://www.modthesims.info/download.php?t=409735
Here you go ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4409026.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4409026.page GMT

Thanks again for an amazing world,

-Conor.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4409064.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4409064.page GMT Here you go [/quote]
Thank you Pary, I don't know how I managed to miss that one! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4409152.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4409152.page GMT I'm glad you like it. It is fun starting with some Sims in the world.

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Envie, just thought I'd let you know that Anna has teamed up with my inventor sim, Fletcher. His brother, Madison, is an astronaut - and the military hero of MBD - who used his pull to get Fletcher sent off-world, rather than stuck in jail. (Fletcher got a bit carried away blowing up most of Twinbrooks. Got fined to the tune of $140,000 - he had a thing about blowing up cars on the hospital lot!) Anyway, it's a match made in scrap-heaven, so to speak. Due to all the cars Fletcher detonated on his home worl, he has over 4500 units worth of scrap in his inventory. Enough to feed his new love. He's currently about $2000 away from reaching level 10 of his field. Anyway, Anna and him will probably get married in a private ceremony - mostly because, despite his celebrity status, no one seems to like Fletcher. Could be because he continues to blow up stuff - including one sims's drumset (did it while she was still playing!). Or, maybe because he ignores rumors - or deflects them on to others. Either way, poor Anna has her work cut out for her, living with him ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4411180.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4411180.page GMT
Reg - its a hoot to hear your stories about Anna. I can imagine her showing off her hands and head spinning tricks to impress Dillon - lol! I'm fairly certain now from my own testing that all androsims are sterile. Unfortunate but somewhat more realistic to our own concepts of 'androids' anyways. While Anna and her brother are organically grown (ahem, heh ) - I am advertising all future generations as genetically engineered. If they're machines on the inside, then they have no way to reproduce. Then again, it was possible for the simbot to do it in the first place, right? Who knows - maybe the same modifications will allow it for androsims if someone wanted to utilize that method to make Anna or others have children.

ctx - thanks for giving me your own version of Anna's life in your sim-world! This Fletcher fellow sounds a lot like my own Simon - who blew up so many cars in the stadium parkinglots of Fort Sim he was overflowing with scrap. His big problem was he kept taking his toddler daughter along on his nightly explosion, err... excursions, and his wife got pretty upset with him. Unbeknownst to her, he is also a secret kleptomaniac - so while out blowing up cars, he was also swiping stuff everynight! haha. I hope Fletcher and Anna have a wonderful exciting life together. She will never go hungry with him ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4412293.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4412293.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4413955.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4413955.page GMT
No, his first fine was $76 and a warning about being bad, and "you have 7 days to clean up your act. Blah, blah, blah." I wanted to see what they would do if he didn't behave, so I had him go around town, blowing up everything in sight. Then had him dig a few tunnels with the miner, and leave the wholes. Got the same stupid warning, and the fines started going up. But no real punishment, other than cash. I think part of the reason they grew so high is because the medical staff all had top-of-the-line cars in the lot, and the fines reflected that. It made a terrific boom when they exploded. An interesting note, his celebrity status grew, each time a "rumor" was published about him being seen blowing up the town. Fletcher never bothers to deny them - he just blows up more things!

Also had him blow up a drumset in the park - while the sim was still playing it. When I clicked on him to do it, I figured I'd get a refusal, but Fletcher just calmly placed his charges and then KaBaam! blew up the drumset. Poor Barbie Roberts (a middle-aged version of Mattels Barbie) survived the explosion, but was scorched. She just stood there crying while Fletcher picked up the debris. Poor Barbie! Life has not been good for her since she jilted Ken at the altar, for GI Joe. He, in turn, jilted her for Atomic Man, Mike Powers. Then she lost her job as spokesperson for Mattel - something about not being a good role model - and ended up going on an eating frenzy and packing on the pounds. Now she lives in one of the swamp shacks in Twinbrook. I may send her to the moon too. Haven't decided yet, but I felt sorry for her when she lost her drums. So much for her future in music! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4414204.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4414204.page GMT

I haven't tested at all today it's been just DH day. We had a nice lunch and watched a couple of movies. I may get to play a little later.

LOL, I've never blown anything up that wasn't in a junkyard. Looks like I need to give that a try.

Rflong, like the new alien look guys in the world. MB Delta is so much fun to play in. I guess I should say test but it feels so right and so complete that it's hard to think of it as a test world anymore. I wouldn't have put a piece of cc in it otherwise.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4414824.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4414824.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4415527.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4415527.page GMT
Rec'd and downloaded your final version. YAY! Congrats and well done rflong

(PS I also played Isle of Sims a bit, its one of yours I had not tried before. Very very nice little island, another gem)

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Speaking of... EA's code is messing up their own worlds too. I reloaded Bridgeport last night to take a look at how they did their Butterfly Pavilion dome entrances.(I'm building a similar one for moon base and Viper Valley both) A lot of the lots, the dome park included, are skewed off center in my game now. You can see where they used the ground texture tool to make a dirt/pebble area around the base of the dome and the whole thing is skewed off by half a tile. I'm pretty sure it wasn't like that before, but then I wasn't looking at it from a more critical builder's eye either. I have a lot of lots doing this - 'melting' a bit off their base building grid, sometimes making grass go over the sidewalk even. I used to suspect my mods or cc - but that's really not the case since I removed everything to test Moon Base Charlie and it still did it.


Just thought I'd throw this in there for other CAW builders to know they aren't going crazy or doing it wrong. The CAW tool is obviously still buggy. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4433762.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4433762.page GMT as always!

Your little starter moon houses are cuter than a bug's ear too. They gave me a fabulous idea for the emergency townie bunkers and fall out shelters. I had been having a problem with getting NO one to come greet me, even when I prepopulated with sims before starting my main sim I wanted to play. I think it's because none of them had a front door and it was messing them up. I'll load up the Emergency Bunker to the Exchange a little later today.

Did you do all the building for your community lots? They are amazing, so well designed and thought out - EA should PAY you

God Bless,
mik]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4434083.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4434083.page GMT
I soooooo can not decide! If it is Moon Base Charlie, will it auto populate? Or will I need to do all the populating?

And another question, when using a domed lot, will the dome come down if you do walls down? (Which would make the view for building/decor easier).

Edit: Meaning also the glass domes.


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No, his first fine was $76 and a warning about being bad, and "you have 7 days to clean up your act. Blah, blah, blah." I wanted to see what they would do if he didn't behave, so I had him go around town, blowing up everything in sight. Then had him dig a few tunnels with the miner, and leave the wholes. Got the same stupid warning, and the fines started going up. But no real punishment, other than cash. I think part of the reason they grew so high is because the medical staff all had top-of-the-line cars in the lot, and the fines reflected that. It made a terrific boom when they exploded. An interesting note, his celebrity status grew, each time a "rumor" was published about him being seen blowing up the town. Fletcher never bothers to deny them - he just blows up more things!

Also had him blow up a drumset in the park - while the sim was still playing it. When I clicked on him to do it, I figured I'd get a refusal, but Fletcher just calmly placed his charges and then KaBaam! blew up the drumset. Poor Barbie Roberts (a middle-aged version of Mattels Barbie) survived the explosion, but was scorched. She just stood there crying while Fletcher picked up the debris. Poor Barbie! Life has not been good for her since she jilted Ken at the altar, for GI Joe. He, in turn, jilted her for Atomic Man, Mike Powers. Then she lost her job as spokesperson for Mattel - something about not being a good role model - and ended up going on an eating frenzy and packing on the pounds. Now she lives in one of the swamp shacks in Twinbrook. I may send her to the moon too. Haven't decided yet, but I felt sorry for her when she lost her drums. So much for her future in music! [/quote]

When I read this, I was ROFL!!! This was hysterically funny! Poor Barbie. She was a close friend on mine in childhood and we spent many hours together. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4436750.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4436750.page GMT
I soooooo can not decide! If it is Moon Base Charlie, will it auto populate? Or will I need to do all the populating?

And another question, when using a domed lot, will the dome come down if you do walls down? (Which would make the view for building/decor easier).

Edit: Meaning also the glass domes.


[/quote]

Hi! Moon Base Charlie does not come with sims. Some will eventually move in, but you will have to populate it. Delta comes with sims already in the world, and you can also add some of your own. Also, when I tested an earlier version of this world, the glass dome walls did come down, but I think it was while my sim was inside the dome. Not sure whether they do that otherwise.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4436782.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4436782.page GMT And another question, when using a domed lot, will the dome come down if you do walls down? (Which would make the view for building/decor easier).

Edit: Meaning also the glass domes.


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Hi! Moon Base Charlie does not come with sims. Some will eventually move in, but you will have to populate it. Delta comes with sims already in the world, and you can also add some of your own. Also, when I tested an earlier version of this world, the glass dome walls did come down, but I think it was while my sim was inside the dome. Not sure whether they do that otherwise.[/quote]

If you use page down normally, to see various floors, it will not remove the dome... you will need to use your mouse wheel to zoom in - this will make the dome go invisible at close range when you are viewing your sims in their house from above.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4437011.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4437011.page GMT
I took one of your moon colony's houses (the white ones on Perimeter road) and decided to copy/reproduce it with some tricked out steampunk and metal/industrial stuff on the outside to make it fit more my idea of a hardcore atmospheric challenged living space. (that means I added an airlock with industrial airlock sliding doors, some steampunk metal panels, some air/water filtration machinery, etc. etc.)

I decided since Moon Base was still in testing (at the time) and I didn't want to fiddle with building while in that mode, I'd save the lot to another place to build it out. I've done this with lots in the past. I have something from MTS builder 'armiel' called Builder Island DIY - its just a teeny island with space enough for two lots. This makes saving and loading very fast.

Once I was done (hours of work) - I re-saved my lot to the bin, reloaded Moon Base Charlie, and plunked it down on the empty lot next to your others.

Here is what I got:

[url]
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YE4jg9mHY30/TTDZpgtcoDI/AAAAAAAAAB4/8wa6NU7tV6A/s1600/Screenshot-1495.jpg[/url]


When I tried to use 'flatten lot' to fix it - this is what I got:


[url]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YE4jg9mHY30/TTDZ-vrguAI/AAAAAAAAAB8/2gGgRrQsdGA/s1600/Screenshot-1497.jpg[/url]

I am definitely a novice at building - but I do know somewhat how terrain and foundations, etc. work. So I cannot figure out why or how this happened. It has to be some variation in elevation between moon base and the builder's island that isn't apparent to me. Both lots appear flat, at ground level, next to the street.

Is there any help at all for fixing this problem or am I stuck with it? I'd hate to lose all that work on the house (which I was going to ask if I could feature for your world in my blog) because I can't bring it back down to the proper ground level.

EDIT: Sorry, had to remove my screenshots - they are apparently huge on picasa for blogging follow links to see.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451097.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451097.page GMT
The lot it is being place on may not be flat or the lot the house was built on may not be flat.

You see- I had placed and replaced the lots. Flattening them out to get rid of as many tiny seams as I could. This means you might not have the same lot that you took the house from. ... They don't match in levelness.

If you have another copy then try to flatten the lot before placing.
If it still does and you can not flatten the lot you built on ... you'll have to learn how to do the
Constrainfloorelevation false
code.

Let me go look for a link which talks about this
. I know there is one somewhere....

If you scroll down to post #12 it will start there.
http://www.the-isz.com/theisz/index.php?/topic/6498-volunteers-please/

Good luck.
And sorry. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451171.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451171.page GMT There's a link around to help fix lots like that. I don't have it offhand, I'll go and find it. Be back.

Here it is - http://www.flyingacres.com/NeighborlySims3/showthread.php?tid=1763&pid=30124]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451172.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451172.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451213.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451213.page GMT
I'll update here and let you know if I'm able to fix it. If I can't, well I guess I will have to chalk this one up to learning (and bugginess) and not move my lots when I'm building them out. Keeping a lot I'm building on in my play world makes things a little iffier and more crash prone in my opinion, but I don't want to lose my work to an elevation bug!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451530.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4451530.page GMT
Thanks again for that link Pary, her fix was a step in the right direction and will definitely help me or others in the future who might have this problem.

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I have not gone into the world yet....

My main sim will be Titainium Bolt, sort of a cross between alien/sim/life form, chosen by the military specifically for the Moon Base. In staying "true" to my story line, my sim first has to finish the military career on earth, to become an astronaut. (How else shall she GET to the moon? lol)

Once on the moon, Titanium will master inventing, sculpting, and gardening, etc. so she can be "self-sufficient" and be able to take pave the way of those earthling sims who will apply to come later.

I think I shall use domes to make lots such as Asian, Egyptian, Victorian, retro, etc. Each new sim will be selected (created) accordingly, bringing to the moon some different cultures from earth. Titanium will just use the time machine to go back and forth to make those selection decisions.

The military allowed Titanium to use secret experimental vaccines (cheats) to keep her motives maxed to speed her training. But the strain of these vaccines are rendered ineffective during the flight, and once on Moon Base Charlie, the atmosphere there keeps all special vaccines from being effective.

Titanium Bolt shall have to be very dedicated and work very hard to make Moon Base Charlie a productive community.

(And so shall I, lol, as I have never NOT used cheats!)

Am I getting my head way to involved in Moon Base Charlie? You bet I am, and I am extremely excited!

Thank you truly Rflong! And remember, it will be Titanium's face you see when you look up at the moon!




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I hope you post some pictures for us. I do love to see Aliens/Droid/Simoids/Bots...

The Military Base lot is set up as a Welcome Center/Arrival Area for new Sims... ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4465972.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4465972.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4466020.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4466020.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4474910.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4474910.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4487359.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4487359.page GMT
http://jumbofiles.com/free44524.html

Happy SIMMING! ^^]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4487386.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4487386.page GMT
Envie, put your Avatar in a workaholic, Type A family. Her brother is top of medical field, and sister-in-law is at 9 in the science career. Your Avatar is about a day away from becoming an interstellar spy. Has a niece who is just as driven as her parents - already has mastered martial arts and athelitic stuff - and a 'disappointing' nephew who just sort of drifts through life, doing - OMG!!! - art-relate stuff. Strange thing is, their best friends are 2 sisters from Earth. One sister is hoping to meet Mr Spock - "because he is real, doncha know!" - and another who is hoping to become the next Top Intersteller Model. (She's a download from TSR - I know, but I couldn't resist her! - from a designer who specializes in stereotypes.) Her sib thinks that she doesn't have a snowball's chance in h, but Kayana insists,"I AM pretty and I WILL win - even if I have to kill off the competition! So there!" The first girl works at the cemetery, and the second is trying to become a superstar - because, well, she "is pretty!" ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4495582.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4495582.page GMT

As for Moon Base Charlie - I unfortunately have not gotten to play nearly as much this week as I would like to (dratted real life again haha) - but hoping to re-do my colonist house and finish my dome condos too. I got sidetracked working on aging up my next-gen simdroids ... because eventually they will be the main colonists on my version of Moon Base Charlie. I guess that's why I've held off playing it much because I'm keen on having the simdroids move up there.

For anyone still reading my sidenotes on Anna, etc... I'm testing the new generation very thoroughly. Anna and Tech were only tested lightly and are prototypes. I've learned a lot of things that should or should not be done when creating this type of 'frankensim' creature with the Sims 3 game engine (quirks and bugs etc). I've decided to play 1st-gen all the way through to elderly before releasing the young adult versions of them. I just haven't had playtime to get that done yet!

Moon Base Charlie project on hold in the ES42 Labs - we'll be blasting off as soon as simly possible!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4496024.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4496024.page GMT
oh wait - did you mean you put my Avatar (the green girl with dreadlocks) in your world or were you talking about Anna?

If you put Belle (her name was Belle Pepper in a previous incarnation) in your world - that's fun, thanks! She's a cutie - my favorite 'alien' sim and the poster child for my "green with envie" campaign.
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When it will be finished? I can't wait for this world ^^]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4531614.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4531614.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4538812.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4538812.page GMT I've also been releasing the "daddybots" to the Exchange (check my studio) for fun. Hoping to get the Simdroids uploaded to the Exchange sooooon.

Aaaanyways - I am actually posting to tell you I spent some quality hours last night playing Moon Base Charlie straight out of the box the way you built it - letting it populate, etc. I have been modifying some old buildings of mine and working on some underground community lots (for both moon base and post apocalypse worlds)... but haven't actually just stopped to PLAY some sims normally, lol. It was fun, and I want to again compliment you on the great work on this world. The community areas are nicely done and sims seem happy to live on the moon!


Now for my request... I was curious if you have a copy of Moon Base Charlie back before you added the roads and lots? When I first posted to this thread, you linked me to your height map, but if I'm not mistaken, that's just your base world map without all your terrain painting done, no? I know terrain painting takes a LONG time to do... hubby says no way, yours is so awesome - he doesn't want to redo it from your base height map. I agree, it looks fabulous. Personally I think he is just putting off loading CAW tool again haha

The reason I ask is I'm doing an experiment with 'vaults' (underground) and need a map without roads that's playable and allows placement of lots of various sizes but mostly large 40x40 upwards to 64x64 lots semi-close together. If you have a copy of MBC without all the roads and lots and such, I'd be so grateful if I could have a copy!! I have no room on my hard drive to load CAW tool and can't get hubby to load it on his and update the new version. I will not be using the map for anything other than personal play use - nothing public other than screenshots of any storylines I do in it. All credit would go back to you of course!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4544428.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4544428.page GMT
The Smiths from Sims 2: http://www.thesims3.com/assetDetail.html?assetId=3695682

[IMG]http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc460/clayworldsims/Aliens/Smiths.jpg[/IMG]


A Mad Scientist and his gorgeous alien wife: http://www.thesims3.com/assetDetail.html?assetId=3695469

[IMG]http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc460/clayworldsims/Aliens/original.jpg[/IMG]

Okay, I just put green skin on my Marilyn Monroe sim.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4560981.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4560981.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4572604.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4572604.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4695791.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4695791.page GMT Thank you Thank you Thank you.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4836624.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4836624.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4838526.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/4838526.page GMT

The site is tossing Liam around and I can't get to my page...
Here ya go, Envie: the CAW files for the last version of [b]Moon Base Charlie[/b].

http://www.mediafire.com/?w5hgugtus08z0eh

You'll see I only used three terrain paints. One I made as the moon sand from EAs sand paint. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010698.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010698.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010739.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010739.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010792.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010792.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010831.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010831.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010903.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010903.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010977.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5010977.page GMT [/quote]

[img]http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Thinking/thinking-006.GIF[/img] Hmmm.... nope. Can't do it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5011045.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5011045.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5013623.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5013623.page GMT WB!

EDIT: Did you know PETS & GENERATIONS are on their way to our PC's ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5013779.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5013779.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5038133.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5038133.page GMT http://www.thesims3.com/assetDetail.html?assetId=3597649]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5038141.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5038141.page GMT
]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5038175.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5038175.page GMT [/quote]

I don't suppose you'd be able to give me a link to a tutorial for making different coloured sand? I'm thinking about making an Australian world, and I want some orange/red sand.

Edit: Also, out of curiosity, are the domes in lots or around them?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5580281.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5580281.page GMT

I used Gimp to open and alter EA's sand. You have to have the dds plug-in to edit them right.

Here's something...
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/152801.page

The domes are on lots.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5581400.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5581400.page GMT ), and it's way better than I was hoping! It's really big, and I love the craters!

I have a simple question though. I want to put in some new modern lots, and obviously they're full of grass and landscaping. I was looking through the terrain paints, and I didn't see this gray terrain paint used in it at all?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5598603.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5598603.page GMT

Glad you like it!

It's the road paint and you don't have to paint over the grass added to a lot- erase the grass.
If a lot is built on the grass terrain and no paint was added it will not keep the grass, it's kind of blank so it will or should show the paint I used on the Moon world. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5598877.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5598877.page GMT . Thanks!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5599019.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5599019.page GMT . If anyone would like to see it, look here http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/0/397123.page#5604524]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5604538.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5604538.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5635424.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5635424.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5682344.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5682344.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5682537.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5682537.page GMT
I am sad. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5933104.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5933104.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5942979.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5942979.page GMT
Yes~Thank you for your nice comment about it, Clayworld. *Made you all warm and fuzzy inside, I'm sure*.... Have a good day.

*Added because I felt like it... ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5943084.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5943084.page GMT
[b]EDIT:[/b] Just read your blog. That's a terrible shame. I wish you would have kept your creations up. I feel like you let a few bad apples mess it up for all of us. I respect your decision but I wish you would reconsider it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5969183.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5969183.page GMT I hope you make more worlds though, (I still have Cake Island, Dark Harbor, and all your other newer ones) ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5969252.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5969252.page GMT

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Still its sad to see a creative spirit stop. Perhaps you could share in a limited way, just to people you think you can count on.

ps - to this day I still can't understand why nobody thought a reference to the 'thirty-eight fingered Neptunians in a signature didn't seem at all out-of-place in a forum that had nothing to do with space or whatever.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5982376.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/5982376.page GMT Thank you.......... I really wanted it and now ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/6142779.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/6142779.page GMT Cool world, btw. Thank you so much for giving me a sci-fi sims 3 world ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/6321602.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/6321602.page GMT

Yes~ The only difference between them is Delta is Populated.

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Hi, CLP

[url=http://myworlds-rflong7.blogspot.com/2012/01/moon-base-charliedelta.html]Here is my World Blog[/url]

It's on Mediafire since I updated it to include LN...
Moon Base Charlie II~ http://www.mediafire.com/?docdfz5b9f1cvdt
Moon Base Delta (Populated)~ http://www.mediafire.com/?mbl8pe99qgscv33

I used some Free Items from the Store such as the[url=http://gb.store.thesims3.com/renault]Renault Set[/url] ..
[url=http://store.thesims3.com/setsProductDetails.html?productId=OFB-SIM3:20378&categoryId=11488&scategoryId=12416&pcategoryId=12415&ppcategoryId=12858]And maybe the Earth Day[/url]


I really need to get my pictures off PB. It seems to not work even if I have an unlimited bandwidth there.

[img]http://llnw.thesims3.com/sims3_asset/sims3_asset/media/shard000//shard000/566/563/007/00/screenshot_original.jpg"width=650"[/img]

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But thanks for requesting the link as i was missing this one since it had been updated.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7670361.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7670361.page GMT
Are you asking about.. how the Exchange opens the Launcher when you click Add To Game?
This doesn't open your launcher when you download. Go to where you downloaded and saved it on your computer then Double click the Sims3pack to open
or move it to your Downloads folder then open the Launcher.

If that was what you meant by the Launcher not opening. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7670471.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7670471.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7670590.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7670590.page GMT
I'm going to uninstall this world and put WA on this pc and reinstall and see if that fixes the issue. If it doesn't I may have to try another disc in the dvd drive and see if it works. The pc I'm on now is a low end one that I use to test with not the one I usually play on.

Wasn't the disk aut failure suppose to have been fixed in a patch? If so it's back.

Edit
Now I know what happen. I picked up the wrong disc. I tried to load the game using Townlife instead of Master Suites. This is why they should have different colors for stuff packs. I don't however have WA installed so I'll have to install that on this pc before I try the new world. I feel so dumb for picking up the wrong disc.

Their all the same color though so I guess it's easy to do.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7671054.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7671054.page GMT
So thanks for creating such a cool world & sharing, I'll leave another message after Ive had some playtime on it

PS it was Blysscia who recommended your planet, thats how I found it ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7700717.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7700717.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7773552.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7773552.page GMT

No. Moon Base Delta is populated. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7773981.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7773981.page GMT

No. Moon Base Delta is populated. [/quote]

Ok thanks and thanks for the awesome worlds]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7780714.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/7780714.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635405.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635405.page GMT
Hi,

Usually a person asks nicely if they would like someones world files. Because I'm not sure if you're asking for instructions, the CAW files, or if you just want to know my "rules." ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635665.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635665.page GMT

Well, I love it!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635703.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635703.page GMT
Hi,

Usually a person asks nicely if they would like someones world files. Because I'm not sure if you're asking for instructions, the CAW files, or if you just want to know my "rules." [/quote]

Sorry, I rushed the post. I'll try again.

Hi,
I am planning on making a story and I am looking for a moon world. I'm not quite sure what I should request but I was wondering if you allow simmers to edit your created worlds and use them in photos. Or can you please send me the CAW files and I could edit the world myself (or you could edit out everything from the world leaving it blank, please).

Sorry if the post still doesn't make sense. I'm horrible at getting my point across.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635740.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635740.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635810.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635810.page GMT [/quote]

Thank you so much. I'll credit you and let you know as soon as I use your world in my story. I been trying to make this story since sims2 and sims3 is just much easier to use for it]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635822.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635822.page GMT

Here is [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?shs4ic4h7sx9b37]The Moon [/url]without roads or objects or lots... still routed for the same areas so you can't just place lots too far out.

Good luck with your story. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635915.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635915.page GMT

Here is [url=http://www.mediafire.com/?shs4ic4h7sx9b37]The Moon [/url]without roads or objects or lots... still routed for the same areas so you can't just place lots too far out.

Good luck with your story. [/quote]

Got it, thanks again]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635977.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/306091/8635977.page GMT
You mention the world is populated
Is there 3rd party CC on any of them
I have played all your games without issues except the haunted
town for some strange reason and want to play this one for sure.

I can never get vampires in my games except Bridgeport.

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No, there shouldn't be any CC on my Sims in a world.
I've never seemed to have a problem getting vampires in any neighborhood.

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