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What about everyone else? Are you getting it?

Granted, it's a very fun expansion pack and it was funny watching the magician to see if he'd survive his own trick or not but judging by previous expansions' prices this one just doesn't seem worth the money for what we get.

Three professions, one neighbourhood, a bunch of clutter, new clothes + hairstyles (which [i]are[/i] quite nice, mind you) and SimPort.

I myself will not be using SimPort because the community side of my Sims is pretty quiet and since we're getting the social features anyway with the incoming patch ...

[size=9]Nah. I'll skip this one.[/size]

[i]Please do tell me if there is more to the expansion pack that I missed. It's the first time I'm not buying a Sims expansion since 2008 [/i]]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7738915.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7738915.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7738936.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7738936.page GMT but they looked alright.
I don't know whether or not it was because they were closed but I couldn't even enter them to look around, as if they were a rabbit hole.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739034.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739034.page GMT but they looked alright.
I don't know whether or not it was because they were closed but I couldn't even enter them to look around, as if they were a rabbit hole.[/quote]

i hope you can go in them, do the sims look nice? and what about the homes on the hills, the big mansions?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739074.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739074.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739391.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739391.page GMT


For one, all of the Showtime achievments (You still get achievements, but not for Showtime).


We're also getting several Sims past favorites returning, such as the photo booth, the DJ, the Electrodance Sphere thingy, pool tables, the mechanical bull, jukeboxes, the golf course, and the karaoke machine.

As far as gameplay and other items go, you're also missing out on:

-The Genie, who not only can grant wishes, but if you add them to your family, he can magically conjure ANY food dish except Ambrosia. He can also magically clean stuff, I hear!

-All of the exclusive content from Simport that can be unlocked (which ALSO includes past favorites remodeled, such as the Freezer Bunny and the Social Bunny... I just realized how bunny-themed this EP is!)
There is also SO MANY things that you can get if you use SimPort! In fact, in my opinion, this EP isn't actually a full EP without the items that you can unlock!

-Your Sims can sing songs

-According to Black Garden I believe there is a vegetarian version of every dish currently available coming with this game

-Banana trees (Your Sims the bananas whole! )

-Tofu

-Sing-a-grams for ANY occasion - happy, romantic, casual, and more!

-Special performance rewards

-Apparently, according to the chat, you can throw even a life preserver on stage if you're in the audience - ALSO, they seem to have created a system in The Sims where if you miss or hit another Sim while throwing something on stage, the object will bounce back at you!

-[b]You can hire any of the performance careers for parties![/b] (Or so I hear... from MULTIPLE sources that also went to one of the many demos in Europe!)

-Being able to see your friends' Sim actually come into your game, and perform on stage for you! You can also KILL your friends' Sims if they're a magician, apparently, too!

-The Simfest competition, with a person that actually comes out and introduces and sponsors the entire event!

-The Diva trait (This will make your town a lot more realistic, judging on real life behaviors. A lot of people act like this, believe it or not!)

-AWESOME, modern-looking, and for once, [b]highly [i][u]realistic[/u][/i][/b]-looking rabbitholes!

-More combined rabbitholes, too!

-Performing for tips out on the street! Now you can literally create your own stories of a hobo living off of tips that they get from performing in the streets! This would be an AWESOME experience in Bridgeport, since in my mind, that's where most hobos would probably be found.


I'm sure there's lots more to it, also!



(If other people have posted this thread to a second page, I've been typing this for 3 hours... I've gotten sidetracked!)]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739797.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739797.page GMT
You can already play for tips using other methods so I'm not too fussed.

Of what I saw of the Diva trait it was funny sometimes (they are more likely to slap other Sims in arguments = funny) but the other trait just seemed like a skill booster.

I wouldn't really see my friend's Sim in my game as I don't really do a lot of community stuff and wouldn't have that many people to share with, so anything regarding SimPort is a bit useless for me.

I would miss the achievements, true. I'm a bit of a completionist

You can throw a life preserver at a Sim and then they get to keep it. I saw it happen. Anything you throw at a Sim performing will be kept by them (unless, I believe they miss).

Oh yeah banana trees ... I'd miss them :/

[size=18]Now I'm all indecisive again! [/size]]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739900.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739900.page GMT
From what I saw of some of the premade Sims' mansions they were very spacious with some funky architecture thrown in, like odds bits of roof being higher than other bits.

One Sim had a whole room dedicated to this award in the shape of a microphone with two big flashing arrows (part of the stage props you can get) pointing to a mirror.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739916.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7739916.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740224.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740224.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740226.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740226.page GMT
Did you miss the part where the OP said they'd had the opportunity to play the game *twice*?

If you did, then how can you *assume* that they missed out on anything that you just mentioned? I would have to say that the OP played, and had fun, but decided in the long run that they didn't want to invest the money on this EP. So, why is it so hard for you to wrap your mind around the concept that someone could play Showtime and then decide for themselves that, while it was fun, it's not worth spending the money...at least not to them?

And did you also miss the part where the OP said they weren't planning on using Simport? If not, why do you insist on trying to sell them on Simport? Really, is it the end of the world if players decide they don't want Simport?

But, really, I think the main thing was that the player decided that, while they had fun, they decided not to spend the money after all, because to them, at least, it's not worth it.

At least the OP can say that they made an informed decision because they did, after all, play the game...TWICE.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740367.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740367.page GMT
It's ok I understand some people tend not to read the whole post, especially if it looks a bit long.

I thought the professions were fun, especially the magician and the singer would be good for my stories but otherwise it's a no-show (get it?) for me.

I didn't play the genie myself but the girl across from me (duckeggpie in case you know her) did and it was quite funny. You can wish for more wishes apparently ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740565.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740565.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740581.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7740581.page GMT well I'm sorry you disliked it, but I'm going to have to go with Writin_Reg's reviews on this one. I'm getting it.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7741458.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7741458.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7741949.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7741949.page GMT
Did you miss the part where the OP said they'd had the opportunity to play the game *twice*?

If you did, then how can you *assume* that they missed out on anything that you just mentioned? I would have to say that the OP played, and had fun, but decided in the long run that they didn't want to invest the money on this EP. So, why is it so hard for you to wrap your mind around the concept that someone could play Showtime and then decide for themselves that, while it was fun, it's not worth spending the money...at least not to them?

And did you also miss the part where the OP said they weren't planning on using Simport? If not, why do you insist on trying to sell them on Simport? Really, is it the end of the world if players decide they don't want Simport?

But, really, I think the main thing was that the player decided that, while they had fun, they decided not to spend the money after all, because to them, at least, it's not worth it.

At least the OP can say that they made an informed decision because they did, after all, play the game...TWICE.[/quote]

umm did you also missed the part where the OP ASKED if there is anything else she missed? That's probably why bunbunnyny listed it all for her/him..

and is it really relevant to attack a person because you think they are selling this EP to whom-you-assume-didnt-like-it? because you missed the part where the OP said he/she is indecisive again,, :/]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7742058.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7742058.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7742512.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7742512.page GMT
I'm mainly only going to use the new objects though like the DJ Tables, Karaoke Machines, Photo Booths, Electro-Dance Spheres, Two-Player Arcade Machines, Mechanical Bull, and Pool Tables all for clubs so each club can be more unique looking... Then there's still the MP3 Player, Golf Range, and Skee-Ball to use! I also *think* there's a new non-rabbit-hole place, the coffee shop, but if not, I still get TONS of other new stuff I didn't mention like hiring all new people to my kids birthday parties to make them less boring. And I also plan on using the Magician Profession....]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7742572.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7742572.page GMT
I'm mainly only going to use the new objects though like the DJ Tables, Karaoke Machines, Photo Booths, Electro-Dance Spheres, Two-Player Arcade Machines, Mechanical Bull, and Pool Tables all for clubs so each club can be more unique looking... Then there's still the MP3 Player, Golf Range, and Skee-Ball to use! I also *think* there's a new non-rabbit-hole place, the coffee shop, but if not, I still get TONS of other new stuff I didn't mention like hiring all new people to my kids birthday parties to make them less boring. And I also plan on using the Magician Profession....[/quote]

HAPPY EARLY *BIRTHDAY*!!! may all your wishes come true, mine is on march 17th, when ill get it ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7742583.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7742583.page GMT umm did you also missed the part where the OP ASKED if there is anything else she missed? That's probably why bunbunnyny listed it all for her/him..

and is it really relevant to attack a person because you think they are selling this EP to whom-you-assume-didnt-like-it? because you missed the part where the OP said he/she is indecisive again,, :/[/quote]

I think it *is* relevant, because apparently some people feel threatened by the fact that a person could play this expansion pack twice, and still decide not to buy it. Yes, they may be indecisive and change their mind, BUT, bunbunnyny was very emphatic on what the OP missed, and really she has nothing to base her opinion on, except what she has read. I have a lot more respect for the OP's opinion, because at least the OP had some hands-on experience before deciding not to buy in the first place, regardless of whether or not they change their mind and decide to buy in the end.

But then again, that's what peer pressure can do for you. And, Aeroprincess, the OP *did* try to go into the ventues, but they weren't open at the time they went.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743068.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743068.page GMT [/quote]


Me too! I am counting down the days for 10:00 A.M. when our local store opens on the 6th of March. I am so excited to get all the things that I have been missing since the base game.


I am so excited to build my old ts2 Music Hall (bar) b/c now I'll have all the objects again, plus the addition of the bull ride. I just cannot wait.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743151.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743151.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743792.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743792.page GMT
Did you miss the part where the OP said they'd had the opportunity to play the game *twice*?

If you did, then how can you *assume* that they missed out on anything that you just mentioned? I would have to say that the OP played, and had fun, but decided in the long run that they didn't want to invest the money on this EP. So, why is it so hard for you to wrap your mind around the concept that someone could play Showtime and then decide for themselves that, while it was fun, it's not worth spending the money...at least not to them?

And did you also miss the part where the OP said they weren't planning on using Simport? If not, why do you insist on trying to sell them on Simport? Really, is it the end of the world if players decide they don't want Simport?

But, really, I think the main thing was that the player decided that, while they had fun, they decided not to spend the money after all, because to them, at least, it's not worth it.

At least the OP can say that they made an informed decision because they did, after all, play the game...TWICE.[/quote]

Here we go again]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743895.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743895.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743925.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7743925.page GMT umm did you also missed the part where the OP ASKED if there is anything else she missed? That's probably why bunbunnyny listed it all for her/him..

and is it really relevant to attack a person because you think they are selling this EP to whom-you-assume-didnt-like-it? because you missed the part where the OP said he/she is indecisive again,, :/[/quote]

I think it *is* relevant, because apparently some people feel threatened by the fact that a person could play this expansion pack twice, and still decide not to buy it. Yes, they may be indecisive and change their mind, BUT, bunbunnyny was very emphatic on what the OP missed, and really she has nothing to base her opinion on, except what she has read. I have a lot more respect for the OP's opinion, because at least the OP had some hands-on experience before deciding not to buy in the first place, regardless of whether or not they change their mind and decide to buy in the end.

But then again, that's what peer pressure can do for you. And, Aeroprincess, the OP *did* try to go into the ventues, but they weren't open at the time they went.[/quote]

I'm sorry but I think you've lost the plot here. NO-one and I mean no-one feels threatened by your or anyone else's decision to get the game. The OP stated her opinion and posed an OPEN question to simmers. The response she got from bunbunnyny did not warrant the attack she received from you. While she did not reveal her sources i'm pretty sure she's not making it all up. I have come across similar information after reading reviews from people who have had "hands on" experience.

I respect the OP's decision to not the get the game. And I'm sure that others do too. Maybe it is you that feels threatened by people who are looking forward to the game. Maybe you should stop bullying simmers and start respecting opinions other than your own, afterall this is an open discussion.

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For one, all of the Showtime achievments (You still get achievements, but not for Showtime). [b][color=darkred]Dull MMO type stuff who adds nothing to gameplay. So I sang X song 20k times and I got badge, whoopie, who cares?[/color][/b]


We're also getting several Sims past favorites returning, such as the photo booth, the DJ, the Electrodance Sphere thingy, pool tables, the mechanical bull, jukeboxes, the golf course, and the karaoke machine. [b][color=darkred]The objects are cool but getting an entire EP just because you want a handful of objects? You know the reason they hold off from giving these onjects in previous EPs such as LN is so that people will feel compelled to buy EPs they are on the fence on.[/color][/b]

As far as gameplay and other items go, you're also missing out on:

-The Genie, who not only can grant wishes, but if you add them to your family, he can magically conjure ANY food dish except Ambrosia. He can also magically clean stuff, I hear!
[b][color=darkred]This is just another creature. Not a must have, many of the abilities it has can be done with cheats and hacks.[/color][/b]

-All of the exclusive content from Simport that can be unlocked (which ALSO includes past favorites remodeled, such as the Freezer Bunny and the Social Bunny... I just realized how bunny-themed this EP is!)
There is also SO MANY things that you can get if you use SimPort! In fact, in my opinion, this EP isn't actually a full EP without the items that you can unlock!
[b][color=darkred]Terrible sell point. I paid for the game and I'm deprived of 90 items which plenty of it is just clutter. Not only that, I depend on others to unlock them.[/color][/b]

-Your Sims can sing songs
[b][color=darkred]Part of the career. Basing an entire EP on just 3 careers is lame.[/color][/b]

-According to Black Garden I believe there is a vegetarian version of every dish currently available coming with this game
[b][color=darkred]I think we could already do this with mods, once again, dishes is nothing major. Doesn't really impact game-play that much.[/color][/b]
-Banana trees (Your Sims the bananas whole!
[b][color=darkred]So we get one new fruit? Big deal. And the sims don't even have proper animations to peel the banana. Not impressed.[/color][/b]

-Tofu
[b][color=darkred]this is the same thing as the vegetarian dish. you can make them by using tofu instead of meat. This is not a seperate feature.[/color][/b]

-Sing-a-grams for ANY occasion - happy, romantic, casual, and more!
[b][color=darkred]Once again, this is part of a career even though your sims can order it without anybody in the household having that career.[/color][/b]

-Special performance rewards
[b][color=darkred]Also ties in with the new career, this is not a seperate feature.[/color][/b]

-Apparently, according to the chat, you can throw even a life preserver on stage if you're in the audience - ALSO, they seem to have created a system in The Sims where if you miss or hit another Sim while throwing something on stage, the object will bounce back at you!
[b][color=darkred]This is all part of the new careers. They can't be seen as something separate from the career. Performing bands won't have these features for example.[/color][/b]

-[b]You can hire any of the performance careers for parties![/b] (Or so I hear... from MULTIPLE sources that also went to one of the many demos in Europe!)
[b][color=darkred]You're not even sure about this. Even it's true you already mentioned this ability before. So you're just repeating yourself.[/color][/b]

-Being able to see your friends' Sim actually come into your game, and perform on stage for you! You can also KILL your friends' Sims if they're a magician, apparently, too!
[b][color=darkred]I can already see the drama of people killing each other's sims they spent time leveling up.[/color][/b]

-The Simfest competition, with a person that actually comes out and introduces and sponsors the entire event!
[b][color=darkred]As nice as this is, it also ties in with the new careers only.[/color][/b]

-The Diva trait (This will make your town a lot more realistic, judging on real life behaviors. A lot of people act like this, believe it or not!
[b][color=darkred]It's just a new trait. As fun as it may be it doesn't do much for "realism" in ones game. It's just a new trait to once again tie in with the new careers.[/color][/b]

-AWESOME, modern-looking, and for once, [b]highly [i][u]realistic[/u][/i][/b]-looking rabbitholes!
[b][color=darkred]A lot of people dont care for the rabbit-holes. This is also based on your opinion which may very greatly for each person.[/color][/b]

-More combined rabbitholes, too!
[b][color=darkred]See what above.[/color][/b]

-Performing for tips out on the street! Now you can literally create your own stories of a hobo living off of tips that they get from performing in the streets! This would be an AWESOME experience in Bridgeport, since in my mind, that's where most hobos would probably be found.
[b][color=darkred]You could already do this. People have been creating stories about hobos since the basegame came out. nothing new here either.[/color][/b]


I'm sure there's lots more to it, also!
[b][color=darkred]Really? Without even playing it? And you say that to someone who played the game twice?[/color][/b]

(If other people have posted this thread to a second page, I've been typing this for 3 hours... I've gotten sidetracked!)[/quote]]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744246.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744246.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744468.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744468.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744541.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744541.page GMT
What do you want to know? When a Sim hits the golf ball it curves to the side pretty quickly so it doesn't look like it should hit anything.

[quote=Aeroprincess87]So the OP played twice and never went inside a venue? well I'm sorry you disliked it, but I'm going to have to go with Writin_Reg's reviews on this one. I'm getting it.[/quote]

I just didn't go in them all. There was this one venue that had the big stage in it but all that was actually playable inside was the stage area, otherwise everything else was blacked out.
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Yup, we're getting the how feature in a patch anyway. At least that's what I understood from Mike Cox's demo. We never got to try out the social features ourselves because they relied on a internet connection that was broken.

I thought the social feature was a sort of IM chat thing but it's more of just posting on someone's wall and getting a notification in game when someone comments on it.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744604.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744604.page GMT [/quote]

You're very welcome. If you have any other questions please do ask and I'll try my best to answer.

[quote=Soretolli]I don't really want Showtime but I'll probably end up buying it anyways.[/quote]

I always succumb to that too But I need to stop wasting my money on expansions I don't even really use ...

[quote=NathanNowell]It looks pretty cool! I'm pre-ordering this on my birthday, Feb 27.. Then that following Friday after my b-day, I get it off, so I get a nice long 3-day weekend to play Showtime... Plus I get a free stuff pack![/quote]

Happy early birthday

[quote=kristenwoods]HAPPY EARLY *BIRTHDAY*!!! may all your wishes come true, mine is on march 17th, when ill get it [/quote]

And happy early birthday to you too =)

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Yup, we're getting the how feature in a patch anyway. At least that's what I understood from Mike Cox's demo. We never got to try out the social features ourselves because they relied on a internet connection that was broken.

I thought the social feature was a sort of IM chat thing but it's more of just posting on someone's wall and getting a notification in game when someone comments on it.[/quote] I know this is the second time someone could not use simport because of internet problem. Something is up with that. I believe the first one was a review and they couldn't get simport to work. If at 2 different times, different places, they couldn't get simport to work, I would think seriously about what is going on? Does it not work or do they want people to buy it first before they realize this is not what it claimed to be.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744712.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744712.page GMT [/quote]

Yup, we're getting the how feature in a patch anyway. At least that's what I understood from Mike Cox's demo. We never got to try out the social features ourselves because they relied on a internet connection that was broken.

I thought the social feature was a sort of IM chat thing but it's more of just posting on someone's wall and getting a notification in game when someone comments on it.[/quote]

So there's no msn messenger type window? I guess some people can take a deep breath then. Though I would've liked it myself. I much rather have a chat window than having to have convos via may page or other people's pages. For one they are saved and on display for the world to see and it's extremely annoying to have to go into the options each time. Also wouldn't you have to navigate to that person's page if you'd want to reply?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744768.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744768.page GMT
Well the first time the internet connection just didn't work because of something going wrong and their HQ that was in charge of the severs and such was in LA or something and no one was awake yet
The second time was in the Gamerbase in London so ... I don't know if they're meant to have internet connection or not but I did try and it still said 'The server cannot be found.'

[quote=n00biityo]So there's no msn messenger type window? I guess some people can take a deep breath then. Though I would've liked it myself. I much rather have a chat window than having to have convos via may page or other people's pages. For one they are saved and on display for the world to see and it's extremely annoying to have to go into the options each time. Also wouldn't you have to navigate to that person's page if you'd want to reply?[/quote]

Nope, just posting on walls. I would have liked the chat idea too if I ever used it.
You do get a notification every time someone replies apparently (there's a special tab now in the notifications window for online features) and I imagine you can just click that and look but, again we didn't get to find out :/]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744810.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7744810.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745095.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745095.page GMT
Oh, no, I'm sorry, I don't think I was clear on that. Sometimes I try to word things so that it makes perfect sense, but sometimes I just end up making it more confusing!

What I meant was, well, yeah, you can already perform on the streets for tips. But at a price - literally! You must buy a guitar, or a portable instrument or something!

I was trying to say, like, literally a hobo with §0 Simoleons, going out on the street to survive. You can't buy an instrument with §0 Simoleons! But with ST, all you have to do is sign up for one of the 3 new professions with the newspaper, and you're on your way to getting rich!
Yeah, you could also just sign up for any career with the newspaper, but that's not very realistic. In reality, no hobo would just go for a job interview and get a job just like *that!*



I'm just saying that the tips thing is just a fun little feature to literally create your own hobo story, going with the "rags to riches" theme!
Although I do understand if you still hold your opinion on that. I didn't wanna sound like I was yelling at you just then, I was just trying to clarify what I meant.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745242.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745242.page GMT
Oh, no, I'm sorry, I don't think I was clear on that. Sometimes I try to word things so that it makes perfect sense, but sometimes I just end up making it more confusing!

What I meant was, well, yeah, you can already perform on the streets for tips. But at a price - literally! You must buy a guitar, or a portable instrument or something!

I was trying to say, like, literally a hobo with §0 Simoleons, going out on the street to survive. You can't buy an instrument with §0 Simoleons! But with ST, all you have to do is sign up for one of the 3 new professions with the newspaper, and you're on your way to getting rich!
Yeah, you could also just sign up for any career with the newspaper, but that's not very realistic. In reality, no hobo would just go for a job interview and get a job just like *that!*



I'm just saying that the tips thing is just a fun little feature to literally create your own hobo story, going with the "rags to riches" theme!
Although I do understand if you still hold your opinion on that. I didn't wanna sound like I was yelling at you just then, I was just trying to clarify what I meant.[/quote]

I'm not sure what planet you're from but most hobos don't make it big as a celeb either. You can always say for storytelling purposes that the hobo stole the guitar. You can even give it the klepto triat and have him steal it.

On the other hand in real life there are programs that help hobos shower, get clean clothes, get food, get a proper haircut and help them find a job and go to interviews.

That's not the point though. When it comes to game-play, performing for tips isn't new. I can manipulate plenty in the game for storytelling purposes that's not all that important.

I didn't think you were yelling and neither am I. I was just pointing out that your list needed some improvement.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745418.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745418.page GMT

That is true, with ST you can go from literally §0 to riches but that small addition isn't really worth the £25 I'd have to spend.

To be honest ... I really don't think I'm getting this. I think I'll play with my Lunar Lakes for now ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745420.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745420.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745611.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745611.page GMT
[quote=n00biityo]I'm not sure what planet you're from but most hobos don't make it big as a celeb either.[/quote]



I said before that they just start off as a street performer. I continued on from that, and once they get enough money from performing, they start to regain their life and use their living to make it to the top of their career!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745626.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745626.page GMT [/quote]

If you mean the little item it's just a green mat with some golf balls ready on it and the Sims walk up to it and just hit golf balls into the distance. If they do a good shot they celebrate. No golf carts from what I saw, I'm afraid

And to answer your other question I forgot about (sorry ) the MP3 player was pretty cute and useful, since it gives a nice moodlet to them wherever they go but you don't see any headphones - just music notes coming out of their ears.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745726.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7745726.page GMT
Oh, no, I'm sorry, I don't think I was clear on that. Sometimes I try to word things so that it makes perfect sense, but sometimes I just end up making it more confusing!

What I meant was, well, yeah, you can already perform on the streets for tips. But at a price - literally! You must buy a guitar, or a portable instrument or something!

I was trying to say, like, literally a hobo with §0 Simoleons, going out on the street to survive. You can't buy an instrument with §0 Simoleons! But with ST, all you have to do is sign up for one of the 3 new professions with the newspaper, and you're on your way to getting rich!
Yeah, you could also just sign up for any career with the newspaper, but that's not very realistic. In reality, no hobo would just go for a job interview and get a job just like *that!*



I'm just saying that the tips thing is just a fun little feature to literally create your own hobo story, going with the "rags to riches" theme!
Although I do understand if you still hold your opinion on that. I didn't wanna sound like I was yelling at you just then, I was just trying to clarify what I meant.[/quote]


I do understand what your trying to say and I think your right Bridgeport would be the perfect city for that. So instead of making a sign "I work for food" or whatever kind of begging appeals. You could instead sing do tricks whatever for money. I like it may even try something like that after the newness of Starlite Shores wears off.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7746381.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7746381.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7746479.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7746479.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7746702.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7746702.page GMT
I wish I could have played it early. ::sigh::

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[quote=n00biityo]I'm not sure what planet you're from but most hobos don't make it big as a celeb either.[/quote]



I said before that they just start off as a street performer. I continued on from that, and once they get enough money from performing, they start to regain their life and use their living to make it to the top of their career![/quote]

I'm not attacking you. Just saying your logic is flawed. And you're [i]still[/i] missing the point. This is about what we get as content in the game, not about your storytelling dilemma's. Do you understand the difference?

Also you tend to give unrealistic examples to say certain features bring 'realisim' in the game. What do you expect? Just pointing out the holes in your reasoning.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7747827.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7747827.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7747839.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7747839.page GMT
You mean the premades? Hmm from what I remember there were quite a few of them actually dotted about SS.

And I prefer Bridgeport over any new neighbourhood usually since the others are all pretty similar to me ...]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7748949.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7748949.page GMT [/quote]

Yup, we're getting the how feature in a patch anyway. At least that's what I understood from Mike Cox's demo. We never got to try out the social features ourselves because they relied on a internet connection that was broken.

I thought the social feature was a sort of IM chat thing but it's more of just posting on someone's wall and getting a notification in game when someone comments on it.[/quote]

So there's no msn messenger type window? I guess some people can take a deep breath then. Though I would've liked it myself. I much rather have a chat window than having to have convos via may page or other people's pages. For one they are saved and on display for the world to see and it's extremely annoying to have to go into the options each time. Also wouldn't you have to navigate to that person's page if you'd want to reply?[/quote]

THIS!!!! I told people the wall and ingame chat are all connected. Which means you can't get a virus, because the chat is not a direct connection feature you connecting to the website. But you can get spammed with notifications. Bleep someone posted to your wall hello. Bleep please accept my sims for today, bleep how are you. I really don't want to be closing 200 notifications in game....]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749553.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749553.page GMT
Maybe this is what that french blogger meant with they can't turn off the window? And that they were getting spammed? Maybe they couldn't turn off the notifications window?

Oh, the horror, the horror.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749656.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749656.page GMT
I'm sorry but I think you've lost the plot here. NO-one and I mean no-one feels threatened by your or anyone else's decision to get the game. The OP stated her opinion and posed an OPEN question to simmers. The response she got from bunbunnyny did not warrant the attack she received from you. While she did not reveal her sources i'm pretty sure she's not making it all up. I have come across similar information after reading reviews from people who have had "hands on" experience.

I respect the OP's decision to not the get the game. And I'm sure that others do too. Maybe it is you that feels threatened by people who are looking forward to the game. Maybe you should stop bullying simmers and start respecting opinions other than your own, afterall this is an open discussion.

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Why should I feel threatened about anyone buying a game? You tell me, since you seem to know me so well. Please, I am looking forward to you telling me how I feel. As for bunbunnyny, the impression *I* got was that she was implying the OP was stupid for not noticing all the things she pointed out as wonderful features to the game. That might not have been the way she meant it, but that's the way it came across.

But, I have no doubt you will put your own spin on it, as you always seem to do whenever you read one of my posts.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749828.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749828.page GMT
I'm not sure if she edited it out, and just because of bad timing when you looked at it I looked very rude just then, but at the bottom of the post she specifically said that if there is anything else she is missing out on by not buying this game to please let her know, because that this would be the first time she hasn't bought a Sims game since 2008!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749887.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749887.page GMT
You mean the premades? Hmm from what I remember there were quite a few of them actually dotted about SS.

And I prefer Bridgeport over any new neighbourhood usually since the others are all pretty similar to me ...[/quote]

you mean they look the same? ill just give them a makeover! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749903.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749903.page GMT
Maybe this is what that french blogger meant with they can't turn off the window? And that they were getting spammed? Maybe they couldn't turn off the notifications window?

Oh, the horror, the horror.[/quote]

Actually that is what i think she meant exactly, as there is no way to turn off notifications in the game at all.

Also op did you get to test the 3 open venues, or even build some for yourself? I don't really know what kind of gamer you are, but that was also something i noticed you hadn't mentioned yet. Believe it or not but interactive content can bring quite a lot of gameplay to the player. So you should consider that as well before you decide. As their are many elements in this ep that you can use to go beyond just having a expansion about superstar careers.

For example your town can now have a teen hang out that is a video game arcade.

You can now a circus community lot, if you have pets you can put exotic animals on that lot.

You can now have a carnival lot, lots of games and fun things to do now

The coffee house. Could also be book club, poetry club, etc.

You can now make something like a rave, or improve your regular club.

I'm just throwing ideas out there i know you said you mainly stay on the home lot when you play but i was a bit curious as to why you play like that. I was thinking the reason was there wasnt any really fun things for your sims to do in an open neighborhood lot. Well show time did add quite a lot of tools for the players to use to start opening up that neighborhood and making it fun to play.

>.< though i don't want to be spammed by notifications. O.o though i am spammed by it now, im still looking for the off switch for it lol.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749930.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749930.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749984.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7749984.page GMT
Also op did you get to test the 3 open venues, or even build some for yourself? I don't really know what kind of gamer you are, but that was also something i noticed you hadn't mentioned yet. Believe it or not but interactive content can bring quite a lot of gameplay to the player. So you should consider that as well before you decide. As their are many elements in this ep that you can use to go beyond just having a expansion about superstar careers.

For example your town can now have a teen hang out that is a video game arcade.

You can now a circus community lot, if you have pets you can put exotic animals on that lot.

You can now have a carnival lot, lots of games and fun things to do now

The coffee house. Could also be book club, poetry club, etc.

You can now make something like a rave, or improve your regular club.

I'm just throwing ideas out there i know you said you mainly stay on the home lot when you play but i was a bit curious as to why you play like that. I was thinking the reason was there wasnt any really fun things for your sims to do in an open neighborhood lot. Well show time did add quite a lot of tools for the players to use to start opening up that neighborhood and making it fun to play.

>.< though i don't want to be spammed by notifications. O.o though i am spammed by it now, im still looking for the off switch for it lol.[/quote]

As for the arcade we now have more objects to make it more diverse but didn't we already have objects to make arcades? Or am I thinking about the store items. I really like that we get new objects. They aren't that many though.

How would the circus thing work? I'm curious about this.

I don't have anything against Showtime's content my objection is that there aren't enough of it. It's s problem I have with most TS3 EPs by the way.

About the spam I just realized that you can log off your account right? Though some simmers like to stay connected while playing so I really hope you can turn off the notifications. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750107.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750107.page GMT
I'm not sure if she edited it out, and just because of bad timing when you looked at it I looked very rude just then, but at the bottom of the post she specifically said that if there is anything else she is missing out on by not buying this game to please let her know, because that this would be the first time she hasn't bought a Sims game since 2008![/quote]

Okay, I apologize for having a go at you. I guess I just misinterpreted your tone. It happes. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750109.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750109.page GMT
If so, I'd be surprised, since it's been there since the base game and as far as I know it does nothing at all...just a joke by the dev team. You'd think that there would be a chance of seeing a llama running around town, especially since "Pets".]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750122.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750122.page GMT It happens to everyone!

Oh, and about the llamas cheat. I've known that it was a joke, but I did try searching it once to see if it actually had any hidden uses that everybody overlooked because of a tiny change. It came up with some people having a conversation about it. I haven't really looked at it any more since!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750182.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750182.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750245.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7750245.page GMT
Also op did you get to test the 3 open venues, or even build some for yourself? I don't really know what kind of gamer you are, but that was also something i noticed you hadn't mentioned yet. Believe it or not but interactive content can bring quite a lot of gameplay to the player. So you should consider that as well before you decide. As their are many elements in this ep that you can use to go beyond just having a expansion about superstar careers.

For example your town can now have a teen hang out that is a video game arcade.

You can now a circus community lot, if you have pets you can put exotic animals on that lot.

You can now have a carnival lot, lots of games and fun things to do now

The coffee house. Could also be book club, poetry club, etc.

You can now make something like a rave, or improve your regular club.

I'm just throwing ideas out there i know you said you mainly stay on the home lot when you play but i was a bit curious as to why you play like that. I was thinking the reason was there wasnt any really fun things for your sims to do in an open neighborhood lot. Well show time did add quite a lot of tools for the players to use to start opening up that neighborhood and making it fun to play.

>.< though i don't want to be spammed by notifications. O.o though i am spammed by it now, im still looking for the off switch for it lol.[/quote]

As for the arcade we now have more objects to make it more diverse but didn't we already have objects to make arcades? Or am I thinking about the store items. I really like that we get new objects. They aren't that many though.

How would the circus thing work? I'm curious about this.

I don't have anything against Showtime's content my objection is that there aren't enough of it. It's s problem I have with most TS3 EPs by the way.

About the spam I just realized that you can log off your account right? Though some simmers like to stay connected while playing so I really hope you can turn off the notifications. [/quote]

Well before you could only have a small amount of video games and things to do, but if you combine video game machines, the new skeeball thingy, the pinball machine from the store, the dart board from latenight, there's also the spinning machine now, and there is the new rock climbing thing also in the store so you can have a pretty fleshed out gaming area.

Well i have quite a bit imagination so the circus you can do by putting a small lot in the area and then a few small houses around the lot, that look like a circus buildings or tents. Then what you can do is make some sims put them in the acrobat career but dress them as clowns so that they do mediocre tricks. Then you can make some pets that fit a circus theme and exotic animals and they'll visit the lot. Lol and you can use the same new games to attract people a show stage for the clowns to perform. Gumball machine for treats. (really wish the popcorn and cotton candy machines were making its way back). It's small circus and something for a simmer to do.

Really when they start adding interactable content your sims game horizons broden even more because your open venues help to have more to do and you can express your imagination even more. Like I'm purely going to add just a karokee dance all for my world. If the coffee is a true venue than im going to do an internet cafe theme. Definetly adding a carnival to my town. The only thing i wish though is they allow subhood again so that we can make themed neighborhoods so that our sims can travel more. Which would be nice so that i'm not trying to squeeze all this stuff in to one neighborhood.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7751368.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7751368.page GMT What about everyone else? Are you getting it?
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Having also played the game at the London event (my avatar is accurate enough for you to recognise me I suspect) I have to say it had the opposite effect on me and I will now get it. Previously I felt that it would probably NOT have enough content and that too much emphasis would be on the social features.

I really liked some of the little things like the new lighting effect options and the fact that lots of the new objects can bring new life to existing community lots. Some of the every day clothes were really nice too. There was a lot to like besides just the show biz aspect, In fact that is important to me, I want to add to my game play even for those sims not actively playing out those professions. Some of the items will go well with Lunar Lakes which I also have. The prices have also fallen recently so all in all I really do think there is enough content to justify the cost for me. Of course, the game we played wasn't a final build but I hope that everything we saw will be included and that if anything there will only be items added, not taken away There were many aspects of the game I didn't get around to trying at all so I still have lots to look forward to come the release day.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7751598.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7751598.page GMT
Well i have quite a bit imagination so the circus you can do by putting a small lot in the area and then a few small houses around the lot, that look like a circus buildings or tents. Then what you can do is make some sims put them in the acrobat career but dress them as clowns so that they do mediocre tricks. Then you can make some pets that fit a circus theme and exotic animals and they'll visit the lot. Lol and you can use the same new games to attract people a show stage for the clowns to perform. Gumball machine for treats. (really wish the popcorn and cotton candy machines were making its way back). It's small circus and something for a simmer to do.

Really when they start adding interactable content your sims game horizons broden even more because your open venues help to have more to do and you can express your imagination even more. Like I'm purely going to add just a karokee dance all for my world. If the coffee is a true venue than im going to do an internet cafe theme. Definetly adding a carnival to my town. The only thing i wish though is they allow subhood again so that we can make themed neighborhoods so that our sims can travel more. Which would be nice so that i'm not trying to squeeze all this stuff in to one neighborhood.[/quote]

that's some pretty amazing imagination! Now I'm thinking of building my own circus too I'm gonna add a magician show on that circus, probably throw in the mat with snake in a basket that you need to flute-out or something.. I hope EA can put up a ferris wheel in store. and some popcorn and cottoncandy too! ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7751884.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7751884.page GMT
Well i have quite a bit imagination so the circus you can do by putting a small lot in the area and then a few small houses around the lot, that look like a circus buildings or tents. Then what you can do is make some sims put them in the acrobat career but dress them as clowns so that they do mediocre tricks. Then you can make some pets that fit a circus theme and exotic animals and they'll visit the lot. Lol and you can use the same new games to attract people a show stage for the clowns to perform. Gumball machine for treats. (really wish the popcorn and cotton candy machines were making its way back). It's small circus and something for a simmer to do.

Really when they start adding interactable content your sims game horizons broden even more because your open venues help to have more to do and you can express your imagination even more. Like I'm purely going to add just a karokee dance all for my world. If the coffee is a true venue than im going to do an internet cafe theme. Definetly adding a carnival to my town. The only thing i wish though is they allow subhood again so that we can make themed neighborhoods so that our sims can travel more. Which would be nice so that i'm not trying to squeeze all this stuff in to one neighborhood.[/quote]

Wow! You're very creative. It's too bad we don't have that crazy bear from TS1, that would've been hilarious! Oh and the TS2 penguin was so adorable!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7752397.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7752397.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7752608.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7752608.page GMT
As for me, even though, I haven't got to play it.. the information has me extremely interested, and I think I am going to love the Sing-A-Grams the most. Along with all the amazing objects that are making a return from the Sims 2 and the new things like the mechanical bull, etc. I cannot wait! I love that Sims can start out as Mimes, etc and try to make it big. I think that's soo cool, and I can't wait to see the new neighborhood, and play. I already have my two Sims that I'm going to play to rise to stardom.

Cannot wait. D: Only a few more weeks! *falls over with excitement*]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7752865.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7752865.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7753197.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7753197.page GMT
Seriously no headphones?

More I hear, the less I like Showtime...]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7753491.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7753491.page GMT
Seriously no headphones?

More I hear, the less I like Showtime...[/quote]

It could be that there are no headphones because the sim is wearing those buds that fit into the ear, like alot of people in RL seem to be using now. Just a thought. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7753557.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7753557.page GMT
Seriously no headphones?

More I hear, the less I like Showtime...[/quote]

It could be that there are no headphones because the sim is wearing those buds that fit into the ear, like alot of people in RL seem to be using now. Just a thought. [/quote]

i do!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7753571.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7753571.page GMT
The mechanical bull was one of the first things I plopped down on a lot to try - actually I turned it into a mechanical zebra but the effect was just the same Much better than the version in the original Sims game.

It's cool seeing the mime doing the 'stuck in a box' and 'blowing in the wind' thing on the live demo but another thing entirely seeing them do it for yourself in the game, so funny and VERY well animated.

There are some cool potted plants with this too. They can be used anywhere and are just another of those little things that add up when you are creating the exact look you need.

Did anyone who went to the events think to check out if there were any new patterns or walls/floors? I meant to and then got caught up with something else and it went out of my head entirely.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7754607.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7754607.page GMT
Yes they are sims, they are the proprietors of the venues that you can audition for gigs. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7754876.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7754876.page GMT
The mechanical bull was one of the first things I plopped down on a lot to try - actually I turned it into a mechanical zebra but the effect was just the same Much better than the version in the original Sims game.

It's cool seeing the mime doing the 'stuck in a box' and 'blowing in the wind' thing on the live demo but another thing entirely seeing them do it for yourself in the game, so funny and VERY well animated.

There are some cool potted plants with this too. They can be used anywhere and are just another of those little things that add up when you are creating the exact look you need.

Did anyone who went to the events think to check out if there were any new patterns or walls/floors? I meant to and then got caught up with something else and it went out of my head entirely.[/quote]

Hi Hortensis! As you saw in my thread at the other forum I agree with you. I was very unsure of getting this EP but left the London event knowing I would get it. I checked quickly the walls/floors and didn't see any, but I may have missed them since it was such a fast glance (at that point I wasn't sure how many ppl would show up and whether we'd be able to play for all the hours we did.) ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7754887.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7754887.page GMT [/quote]



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[quote=Anavastia]Also op did you get to test the 3 open venues, or even build some for yourself? I don't really know what kind of gamer you are, but that was also something i noticed you hadn't mentioned yet. Believe it or not but interactive content can bring quite a lot of gameplay to the player. So you should consider that as well before you decide. As their are many elements in this ep that you can use to go beyond just having a expansion about superstar careers.[/quote]

I didn't get to test them very well nor build them - but I'm more of a player anyway rather than a builder. You're right the bull etc. would add to the community lots already available (I just remembered I didn't check to see what kind of new lots from the bin we'd be getting ) but again, I don't really build (I have no originality).

[quote=n00biityo]As for the arcade we now have more objects to make it more diverse but didn't we already have objects to make arcades? Or am I thinking about the store items. I really like that we get new objects. They aren't that many though.
...
About the spam I just realized that you can log off your account right? Though some simmers like to stay connected while playing so I really hope you can turn off the notifications.[/quote]

There are quite a few new objects if you include the clutter for any stage props and there was some clothes that were really quite nice.
I think if you want to disable the social features you simply have to log out so no Shop Mode, no Facebook etc.
I [i]think[/i].

[quote=Anavastia]Well i have quite a bit imagination...[/quote]

No kidding. I'd love to see these buildings when it does come out (and I get ST )

[quote=H0RTENSIS]The prices have also fallen recently...[/quote]

Hey there, I was the one with the bright yellow bag
That is true actually and I suppose the game would make everything cooler... I don't know what to do now

[quote=CopenRoad]I'm going to wait for Lazy Game Reviewer's review of it and what you guys think of it...[/quote]

I think [i]that[/i] is a very good idea.

[quote=kristenwoods]can you please answer this, the mansions, there is a lot but that 1 big one, thats on a dead end road, but has 2 drive ways, is there some1 live there? cause i really want to live there[/quote]

I can't really remember but if it's the house I think it is it's actually two lots - one the main house belonging to a woman and her boyfriend and the other a pool house belonging to the ex-husband of the woman who got kicked out

[quote=pixiedust4267]It could be that there are no headphones because the sim is wearing those buds that fit into the ear, like alot of people in RL seem to be using now. Just a thought.[/quote]

True but animation wise it'd be pretty difficult to add headphones (as in buds) in with any wires I think as it'd have to be fixed to the skeleton of the actor and whatnot ... but maybe you're right - the Sim at the time had long hair


[b]This is the longest post I've ever written [/b]]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7758515.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7758515.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7758764.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7758764.page GMT [/quote]

I'd also really like to know that because I downloaded a house I really want to put there and it requires that lot size!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7759858.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7759858.page GMT but there was a lot of flat bits that were empty that were either a 64x64 lot or was space to put one down.

And I don't mind the questions ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7760300.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7760300.page GMT


For one, all of the Showtime achievments (You still get achievements, but not for Showtime).


We're also getting several Sims past favorites returning, such as the photo booth, the DJ, the Electrodance Sphere thingy, pool tables, the mechanical bull, jukeboxes, the golf course, and the karaoke machine.

As far as gameplay and other items go, you're also missing out on:

-The Genie, who not only can grant wishes, but if you add them to your family, he can magically conjure ANY food dish except Ambrosia. He can also magically clean stuff, I hear!

-All of the exclusive content from Simport that can be unlocked (which ALSO includes past favorites remodeled, such as the Freezer Bunny and the Social Bunny... I just realized how bunny-themed this EP is!)
There is also SO MANY things that you can get if you use SimPort! In fact, in my opinion, this EP isn't actually a full EP without the items that you can unlock!

-Your Sims can sing songs

-According to Black Garden I believe there is a vegetarian version of every dish currently available coming with this game

-Banana trees (Your Sims the bananas whole! )

-Tofu

-Sing-a-grams for ANY occasion - happy, romantic, casual, and more!

-Special performance rewards

-Apparently, according to the chat, you can throw even a life preserver on stage if you're in the audience - ALSO, they seem to have created a system in The Sims where if you miss or hit another Sim while throwing something on stage, the object will bounce back at you!

-[b]You can hire any of the performance careers for parties![/b] (Or so I hear... from MULTIPLE sources that also went to one of the many demos in Europe!)

-Being able to see your friends' Sim actually come into your game, and perform on stage for you! You can also KILL your friends' Sims if they're a magician, apparently, too!

-The Simfest competition, with a person that actually comes out and introduces and sponsors the entire event!

-The Diva trait (This will make your town a lot more realistic, judging on real life behaviors. A lot of people act like this, believe it or not!)

-AWESOME, modern-looking, and for once, [b]highly [i][u]realistic[/u][/i][/b]-looking rabbitholes!

-More combined rabbitholes, too!

-Performing for tips out on the street! Now you can literally create your own stories of a hobo living off of tips that they get from performing in the streets! This would be an AWESOME experience in Bridgeport, since in my mind, that's where most hobos would probably be found.


I'm sure there's lots more to it, also!



(If other people have posted this thread to a second page, I've been typing this for 3 hours... I've gotten sidetracked!)[/quote]

Also were getting 2 new hottubs one which has a lions head on it. I saw it in a concept art.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7760555.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7760555.page GMT [quote=Aeroprincess87]So the OP played twice and never went inside a venue? well I'm sorry you disliked it, but I'm going to have to go with Writin_Reg's reviews on this one. I'm getting it.[/quote]

I just didn't go in them all. There was this one venue that had the big stage in it but all that was actually playable inside was the stage area, otherwise everything else was blacked out.
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Like I said before. I'm going with Writin_Reg's reviews on it since she played it for a week and got to go more in depth with the game as a whole. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7760594.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7760594.page GMT
Other questions

I know you mentioned premades but did you see any from the sims 2 like the Pleasent's,Dreamers,Beaker's etc? EA needs to add the famous sims from the sims 2. We have Don Lathario in Riverview,The Calienti Sisters in Barnacle Bay and the Goth's and other famous families in Sunset Valley.

Did you see the large tv that goes on the wall? I've heard this thing is huge so it will make a great home theater system.

Did you see any sims doing a concert at the bistro stage and do you know if that stage is in buymode so we can place it on any lot? I suck at building stages.

Did you get a chance to try the new set makeup per outfit option?

Is there any love themed sofas and beds?



Also a comment about some of this stuff going with Lunar Lakes I'm glad that it will.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7760942.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7760942.page GMT
Apart from stuff for the stages, could you tell us more about the new objects that come with the game? New furniture for example?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761305.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761305.page GMT
Other questions

I know you mentioned premades but did you see any from the sims 2 like the Pleasent's,Dreamers,Beaker's etc? EA needs to add the famous sims from the sims 2. We have Don Lathario in Riverview,The Calienti Sisters in Barnacle Bay and the Goth's and other famous families in Sunset Valley.

Did you see the large tv that goes on the wall? I've heard this thing is huge so it will make a great home theater system.

Did you see any sims doing a concert at the bistro stage and do you know if that stage is in buymode so we can place it on any lot? I suck at building stages.

Did you get a chance to try the new set makeup per outfit option?

Is there any love themed sofas and beds?[/quote]

Sorry I didn't see any large scale lots, or at least notice them but there were spaces to put some down using the editor.

I didn't see any famous premades no, sorry. I usually look at that first too

Yes I saw the TV and it is [size=18]massive[/size]. About four tiles across?

A few of the stages I saw just looked like the stages that were introduced with Late Night, a little bit of a step. There's also the huge stage at one of the new venues which I think only comes with that venue (the rest of that venue is blacked out around it).

I didn't even notice the new make up per outfit tool but it can't be that different from the per hairstyle outfit ...

Not that I saw, sorry but I wouldn't take my word on that one ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761400.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761400.page GMT
Apart from stuff for the stages, could you tell us more about the new objects that come with the game? New furniture for example?[/quote]

Agreed. I'd like to know as well.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761405.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761405.page GMT
Apart from stuff for the stages, could you tell us more about the new objects that come with the game? New furniture for example?[/quote]

Agreed. I'd like to know as well.[/quote]

There of course the Bull, arcade machine, photo booth etc. (WooHoo in the Photo Booth is funny) and there were also these weird tabletops that looked like they were from Tron and chairs that were like a stack of newspapers or a giant magician's hat.

One of the things that annoyed me about this expansion was there didn't seem to be that many new [i]normal[/i] things.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761434.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761434.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761515.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761515.page GMT There of course the Bull, arcade machine, photo booth etc. (WooHoo in the Photo Booth is funny) and there were also these weird tabletops that looked like they were from Tron and chairs that were like a stack of newspapers or a giant magician's hat.

One of the things that annoyed me about this expansion was there didn't seem to be that many new [i]normal[/i] things.[/quote]

Well I already knew about the photo booth etc. I was afraid we indeed wouldn't get many "normal" items. Thank you so much for answering all the questions. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761900.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761900.page GMT
1)Did you try having sims take a romantic picture in the photobooth and if so how did it look? Did you see them exchanging kisses?

2)Did you notice if there were any premades with a level 8 or higher skill in the new careers? Eg is there a famous singer premade there now? I want to try out these careers at max level with a premade to see how they work.

3)You said the tv was 4 tiles long. Is that as long as the wall aquarium in Late Night? If so that is going to one awesome television set.

4)Did you try the woohoo in the magic box as well?


A simmer named Mona got to play as well and she said there is a set makeup per outfit option that lets you set the makeup per different outfits. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761925.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761925.page GMT
That's five.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761979.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7761979.page GMT
That's five.[/quote]

Well then it's about as big. Thanks for the info. That's still a pretty large area.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7762053.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7762053.page GMT One of the things that annoyed me about this expansion was there didn't seem to be that many new [i]normal[/i] things.[/quote]

I agree with you and initially I felt a little disappointed that a lot of it is so themed too but then I started to think about how I could use it on existing community lots and there are far greater possibilities. I supposed it is the very nature of the pack that it is going to be that way. At least it caters for all tastes and we do already have a fair amount of 'normal stuff'.

Don't forget the chin up, exercise bar for gym's or the home. I tried that one out too. Oh! and the skeeball? was it called that, it's the ball and hoop thing you find in arcades or at the fair. I think there are really quite a lot of objects that have totally new interactions with them.

When I first arrived I played in Sunset Valley and moved all the lots into that world because that was where the demo lot was set up. I did play in Starlight Shores later in the afternoon on a different machine making my own family but didn't really pay much attention to the world I must admit, I was working my way up the acrobat profession at that time It's not a striking world in the way that Bridgeport was but if it has lots of large open, flat spaces it will be useful. It certainly gives that impression.

I tend to play Sunset Valley, Hidden Springs and Appaloosa Plains the most currently.

It's going to be interesting hearing everyone's opinion of it once it arrives for sure.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7765910.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7765910.page GMT

jD001]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7766596.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7766596.page GMT
I'm going with Writin_Reg's reviews on it since she played it for a week and got to go more in depth with the game as a whole. [/quote]

Which is where? Do you have a link please as I missed her review. I know she must have been pleased with the game as she has pre-ordered ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7766677.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7766677.page GMT
I'm going with Writin_Reg's reviews on it since she played it for a week and got to go more in depth with the game as a whole. [/quote]

Which is where? Do you have a link please as I missed her review. I know she must have been pleased with the game as she has pre-ordered [/quote]

Its not in a specific place, but she did write about the game in a few places.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7768789.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7768789.page GMT [/quote]

Same here. There's nothing that really interests me since I'm annoyed by all things celebrity, and it's way too similar to late night. I'm getting it anyways though, because I've grown bored of my current game.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7769049.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7769049.page GMT
-Being able to see your friends' Sim actually come into your game, and perform on stage for you! You can also KILL your friends' Sims if they're a magician, apparently, too!
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I don't think I'm a big fan of the idea of someone killing my sim, especially if I've put a lot of time into them I hope this isn't true.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7769118.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7769118.page GMT
Because remember, the new death is a result of your own Sim failing at a trick in the magician profession, not as a result of you clicking on the Box of Danger and selecting "Fail Escape Act."]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7769854.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7769854.page GMT
-Being able to see your friends' Sim actually come into your game, and perform on stage for you! You can also KILL your friends' Sims if they're a magician, apparently, too!
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I don't think I'm a big fan of the idea of someone killing my sim, especially if I've put a lot of time into them I hope this isn't true.[/quote]

Unfortuanly it is. I seem to remember one of the producers say that if you sent your sim to someone elses game and they were a magic person they could die in your friends game much like in your own. I think they said that during the walkthru but I'm not sure.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7769957.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7769957.page GMT
Its not in a specific place, but she did write about the game in a few places.[/quote]

Ah! Ok. I have caught one or two of her thoughts here and there. Was just interested if there was a whole review but no matter if not. Thank you for coming back to me.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7770194.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7770194.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7770240.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7770240.page GMT
They can woohoo in it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7770690.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7770690.page GMT
They can woohoo in it. [/quote]

so yes? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7770958.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7770958.page GMT
You'll have to unlock the 90 items each time you start playing the game from scratch.

The Sims was released in 2000, right? That was 12 years ago and I still play it and have a lot of fun doing so.

The Sims 2 was released in 2004 and by 2011 only 3 years after it's last expansion pack, the official community site was disbanded and there's no longer any support for the game. If you need patches you'll have to rely on 3rd party sites.

Do you think you'll be able to pick up your TS3 game 12 years from now and have the same joy I have now with TS1?

Not with an EP like Showtime you won't. There won't be any support for it by then. And you'll have to bother your friends which probably will not be interested to help you unlock the items.

That is [i]if[/i] Simport even works. If EA terminates support of their servers how on earth will you be able to connect with someone and unlock these items?!

The path they've chosen is so wrong in so many ways.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771119.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771119.page GMT
You'll have to unlock the 90 items each time you start playing the game from scratch.



what do you mean we have to? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771185.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771185.page GMT
You'll have to unlock the 90 items each time you start playing the game from scratch.



what do you mean we have to? [/quote]

The only way to unlock the items (as far as we know) is through Simport. Actually, if you would have read my post you would have known what I was talking about. *sigh*

Let's just say your HD crashed and you had no external back up of your save games. That means you lost [i]all[/i] progress you ever made in the game including the special unlockable items.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771219.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771219.page GMT
You'll have to unlock the 90 items each time you start playing the game from scratch.



what do you mean we have to? [/quote]

The only way to unlock the items (as far as we know) is through Simport. Actually, if you would have read my post you would have known what I was talking about. *sigh*

Let's just say your HD crashed and you had no external back up of your save games. That means you lost [i]all[/i] progress you ever made in the game including the special unlockable items.[/quote]

i dont plan using simport and i thought you ment somthin else, so what kind of stuff could we unlock?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771259.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771259.page GMT
You'll have to unlock the 90 items each time you start playing the game from scratch.

The Sims was released in 2000, right? That was 12 years ago and I still play it and have a lot of fun doing so.

The Sims 2 was released in 2004 and by 2011 only 3 years after it's last expansion pack, the official community site was disbanded and there's no longer any support for the game. If you need patches you'll have to rely on 3rd party sites.

Do you think you'll be able to pick up your TS3 game 12 years from now and have the same joy I have now with TS1?

Not with an EP like Showtime you won't. There won't be any support for it by then. And you'll have to bother your friends which probably will not be interested to help you unlock the items.

That is [i]if[/i] Simport even works. If EA terminates support of their servers how on earth will you be able to connect with someone and unlock these items?!

The path they've chosen is so wrong in so many ways.[/quote]

N00biityo this is the second time within two days that I've seen you force your opinion on others or give off the impression your opinion is better/fact. I got this impression from the middle section of your post.

[quote=n00biityo]Do you think you'll be able to pick up your TS3 game 12 years from now and have the same joy I have now with TS1?

Not with an EP like Showtime you won't. There won't be any support for it by then. And you'll have to bother your friends which probably will not be interested to help you unlock the items.[/quote]

There are plenty of people who think SHT is a good investment. There will be plenty of people who will pick up TS3 years from now and will enjoy it. SimCity 3000 was released in 1999 and I still play it. Even though these two games aren't from the Sim series, I still play MechWarrior 2 and 3, and they were released in 1995 and 1999 respectively.

Yes, the SimPort features of Showtime aren't exactly glamorous (haha, pun...), but there are those who enjoy social features, and social features will be around for many, many years. Regardless if there is support or not for it in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if people from around the community pooled together to create a support system for the game. When the MechWarrior series went into decline, a community of modders called MekTek came together, and with permission from the developers, created new patches and game play for MechWarrior so the series would still have a chance to live.

You have no solid proof that years from now, there will be no support for TS3 and its expansions, or that no one will pick it up and play it anymore. You have no proof that people will enjoy playing older versions of games instead of the latest, like you have more fun with TS1. You're also not "bugging your friends" unless said friends have agreed to put forth an effort into the SimPort grind, and who says you have to do it all the time? There are other aspects of the game aside from SimPort. People already look to third party solutions in fixing what's already wrong with TS3, such as Twallan and Awesomemod for instance, and older games will almost always have to use patches from third party sites, support doesn't stick around forever.

I know you'll take this as an attack, as I expect you will, but what I'm trying to get at is that it's frustrating seeing someone take such a condescending tone with others and act like what they say is superior.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771395.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771395.page GMT
But I also thought that I read somewhere that once you unlock the rewards, they are available to use in any game you play. I don't think you have to continue to unlock them over and over.
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But I also thought that I read somewhere that once you unlock the rewards, they are available to use in any game you play. I don't think you have to continue to unlock them over and over.
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Even *if* SimPort support is discontinued at any point in time, SimPort does not make up the entire expansion. Even with SimPort being included in a patch and with the possibility of it being included in future expansion packs, if the SimPort servers go down, it'll be just like playing TS3 before this SimPort nonsense came about: by yourself. It'll just be pretty crummy that we had to go through the SimPort shenanigans only to have it discontinued at a later date *if* that ever happens.

Now if EA released an expansion pack or stand alone Sims game that based off of SimPort entirely and *then* they discontinued support for it in the future, yeah, I could see that being a problem.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771898.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771898.page GMT
But I also thought that I read somewhere that once you unlock the rewards, they are available to use in any game you play. I don't think you have to continue to unlock them over and over.
[/quote]

Even *if* SimPort support is discontinued at any point in time, SimPort does not make up the entire expansion. Even with SimPort being included in a patch and with the possibility of it being included in future expansion packs, if the SimPort servers go down, it'll be just like playing TS3 before this SimPort nonsense came about: by yourself. It'll just be pretty crummy that we had to go through the SimPort shenanigans only to have it discontinued at a later date *if* that ever happens.

Now if EA released an expansion pack or stand alone Sims game that based off of SimPort entirely and *then* they discontinued support for it in the future, yeah, I could see that being a problem.[/quote]


Agreed.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771994.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7771994.page GMT
People act like Simport is going to be such a minor feature in the Sims 3, but if you want to get a taste of what quest driven gameplay is, Sims style, try the Sims Social, and you'll see what I mean. It does get tiresome trying to keep up with your Sims needs, plus having to rely on neighbors to complete a piece of furniture that you've aleady paid for in the in-game store using in-game currency (not real money).

Not saying that you're going to need real money to use Simport. I'm just saying that it is that type of "I'll scratch-you-back-if-you'll-scratch mine" gameplay that doesn't take that long to leech the fun out of a game that you would normally enjoy. I'll be surprised if people are still thrilled with Simport come April and May.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7773549.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7773549.page GMT
You'll have to unlock the 90 items each time you start playing the game from scratch.[/quote]

Actually you don't. Once you unlock them, they are unlocked for all your sims, even if you start a new game.

[quote=n00biityo]Do you think you'll be able to pick up your TS3 game 12 years from now and have the same joy I have now with TS1?[/quote]

Yes, I do.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7774024.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7774024.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7774528.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7774528.page GMT
They can woohoo in it. [/quote]

so yes? [/quote]

They maybe able to sleep in it like sims can sleep in the sarcophicus from world adventures.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7774533.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7774533.page GMT
You'll have to unlock the 90 items each time you start playing the game from scratch.

.[/quote]

Do you happen to know what are these 90 items ? I am not happy with ST, I don't like it at the moment, but I don't want to say anything bad because somehow I got the feeling that I might end up buying it , yeah sad but true

Anyway, if I need simport to unlock these 90 items then I gonna beg to all Modders out there.. please....please create a Mod to unlock these items without using simport . I don't hate ST, but I DO HATE simport ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775095.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775095.page GMT
This is what I've listed as the new features SH gives us and what they mean to me personally. This is my own opinion, 'k?


[list]Showtime specific achievements.[/list]
[color=darkblue]And? I don't mind just having achievements for the games I've got now.[/color]

[list]Photobooth, bull, DJ, sphere, pool tables, jukeboxes, golf mat, karaoke machine, chin up bar.[/list]
[color=darkblue]Unless I made new clubs like has been suggested these would mostly be unused.[/color]

[list]Genie.[/list]
[color=darkblue]I definitely will not be using this since I dislike cheaty things.[/color]

[list]Singing profession.[/list]
[color=darkblue]Probably the only profession out of the three we get that I'd utilise.[/color]

[list]Acrobat profession.[/list]
[color=darkblue]I wouldn't really use this one since the 'tricks' aren't as fun as the magician and I would probably accidently learn the words to the Simlish songs - which I can't do to this one obviously.[/color]

[list]Magician profession.[/list]
[color=darkblue]Fun to watch, no argument but not for me.[/color]

[list]Unlockables for stages.[/list]
[color=darkblue]This would be good if I was interested in starting a Sim from scratch but otherwise irriating. [b]There were some premades in the neighbourhood though who had already reached the top of their profession though.[/b][/color]

[list]Vegeterian versions of all dishes.[/list]
[color=darkblue]Just an aesthetic change to me, not very important.[/color]

[list]Tofu.[/list]
[color=darkblue]Adds a bit of realism I suppose...[/color]

[list]Banana trees.[/list]
[color=darkblue]I would like this but I'm not spending £25 for just this Especially if the animations aren't properly done too (I didn't look).[/color]

[list]Sing-a-grams.[/list]
[color=darkblue]These would soon get annoying as random Sims in the profession would probably start doing these.[/color]

[list]SimFest (including throwing/gifting items to other Sims).[/list]
[color=darkblue]Much like the neighbourhood events that sometimes happen really. Not that new.[/color]

[list]SimPort.[/list]
[color=darkblue]Highly unlikely I would use this. Especially if it meant my Sim would then come back as a ghost one day.[/color]

[list]Diva, Born Performer traits.[/list]
[color=darkblue]The diva trait was fun but the Born Performer trait seemed like just a skill-booster (like Photographer's Eye, etc.).[/color]

[list]New rabbitholes.[/list]
[color=darkblue]Again, not bothered.[/color]

[list]MP3 Player.[/list]
[color=darkblue]Very useful as it gives a nice long moodboost but no visible headphones for screenshots/machinima [/color]

[list]New neighbourhood.[/list]
[color=darkblue]Another one? It isn't even that different (apart from the new venues). At least from what I saw.[/color]


So there's my conclusion I'm still not getting it.

[i]What about y'all?[/i]]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775414.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775414.page GMT
People act like Simport is going to be such a minor feature in the Sims 3, but if you want to get a taste of what quest driven gameplay is, Sims style, try the Sims Social, and you'll see what I mean. It does get tiresome trying to keep up with your Sims needs, plus having to rely on neighbors to complete a piece of furniture that you've aleady paid for in the in-game store using in-game currency (not real money).

Not saying that you're going to need real money to use Simport. I'm just saying that it is that type of "I'll scratch-you-back-if-you'll-scratch mine" gameplay that doesn't take that long to leech the fun out of a game that you would normally enjoy. I'll be surprised if people are still thrilled with Simport come April and May.[/quote]

Actually,

[quote=Yumedust][b]You're also not "bugging your friends" unless said friends have agreed to put forth an effort into the SimPort grind, [i]and who says you have to do it all the time? There are other aspects of the game aside from SimPort.[/b][/i][/quote]

And,

[quote=Allspice1232]Actually you don't. Once you unlock them, they are unlocked for all your sims, even if you start a new game.[/quote]

You don't have to play SimPort all the time, there are other things to do. As long as you (you meaning you in general) and your buddies mutually agree when you want to do SimPort, the hassle of the grind can be lessened. On top of that, once you unlock your goodies, you have them for the rest of your simmies.

And also actually,

[quote=Jarsie9]but if you want to get a taste of what quest driven gameplay is, Sims style, try the Sims Social, and you'll see what I mean.[/quote]

I have played the Sims Social, and it's horrible. I hope that EA doesn't introduce the use of real money for anything SimPort related seeing as we already do that for the Sims Store, but at this point I really do think SimPort is a "minor feature." Yes, it'll be in a patch, yes, it might be in future expansions. Don't want to be bugged by it? Log out before launching the game, au revoir SimPort features during game play. Yes, you miss out on a few outfits, stages, and stage props. BUT! This is why we have the live chat soon, hopefully we'll see more of those items so we can get an idea of what we'll be missing out on should we choose not to SimPort.

Do I like what I've seen of those unlockables? Yeah, they look pretty snazzy. But I could also build my own stages, make my own clothes, and make my own stage props. For those of us who choose not to SimPort, here's a great time for you to start learning how to build your own stages and create your own clothes and objects if you don't already. Personally, if I SimPort or not, I would still like to learn how to create my own clothes/objects and build my own stages. Don't want to do all the work yourself? I'm sure there will be plenty of other builders and meshers out there who will make stuff not long after SHT comes out and they've had time to fiddle with the new goodies.

I'm not attacking you, Jarsie, this is just how I feel, and I feel like I repeat myself a lot. I'm going to go ahead and apologize if you take any of it the wrong way, it's not my intent.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775497.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775497.page GMT
[quote=Jenieusa][IMG]http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/jenieusa/Untitled-139.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

The thread, which also includes a SHT SimPort walk through, can be found here:

http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/504138.page]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775528.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775528.page GMT Lot's of new objects that I want. I'm sure the moding comunity will come up with some fixes. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775531.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7775531.page GMT •Unlockables for stages.


This would be good if I was interested in starting a Sim from scratch but otherwise irriating. There were some premades in the neighbourhood though who had already reached the top of their profession though.

So there are premades who are maxed out in those professions awesome. That will allow me to test out the singing career at level 10 meaning I can have one of those sims put on a concert in stage area so I get to see how it works at max level.

OP what is the name of the singer sim who is famous? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776135.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776135.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776226.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776226.page GMT

Well now that was rather rude wasn't it? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776283.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776283.page GMT
Actually no, it's highly unlikely I will get it Got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

[quote=pixiedust4267]Well now that was rather rude wasn't it? [/quote]

Thank you

[quote=catloverplayer]OP what is the name of the singer sim who is famous?[/quote]

I'm sorry I really can't remember but she was a female Sim living on her own (there was quite a few singer premades actually).]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776379.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776379.page GMT

Well now that was rather rude wasn't it? [/quote]

Just another troll crawling out of the wood work for some attention grabbing, Pixie, dear. EniracY has a good thread going here. I think the famous female singer was named Brittany? A spin off of Brittany Spears, but her name was spelled Bruttany. I remember seeing it from a translated Dutch article a while back.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776403.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776403.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776410.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776410.page GMT
This is awesome. Hopefully we will get popups that this sim is performing in one of the stage venues and can send our sims to see her in concert.

The simfest in the parks sounds great too but I want one of my sims to go to a concert in one of the venues were the crowds are.

Now first thing I'll do is play with this townie and have her do a gig at one of the venues just to see how that will work. Speaking of townies Mona how are they looks wise. Are there a lot of attractive ones or do they look like the ones in Twinbrooks homely?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776469.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776469.page GMT
This is awesome. Hopefully we will get popups that this sim is performing in one of the stage venues and can send our sims to see her in concert.

The simfest in the parks sounds great too but I want one of my sims to go to a concert in one of the venues were the crowds are.

Now first thing I'll do is play with this townie and have her do a gig at one of the venues just to see how that will work. Speaking of townies Mona how are they looks wise. Are there a lot of attractive ones or do they look like the ones in Twinbrooks homely?[/quote]

I had her auditioning and did a few performances around town. She was really pretty. No one stood out though, (IMO) I think the Sims in Lunar Lakes are the prettiest, but no Sims looked like Twinbrooks lol]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776522.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776522.page GMT
I bet story progression will make her and Billy fall in love when your playing another family. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776727.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776727.page GMT
I bet story progression will make her and Billy fall in love when your playing another family. [/quote]

That would be sweet ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776918.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7776918.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7777198.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7777198.page GMT
I did not see them in the broadcast. I remember she had the new hair, pony on the side (blonde) and he had the fliggs fluff hair/black with pink streaks. I will have a look again

Edit: She had the hair flowing back. I think I changed it to the ponytail on the side ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7777355.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7777355.page GMT I get so sick and tired of rude people coming on here and attacking others. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779000.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779000.page GMT
They can woohoo in it. [/quote]

so yes? [/quote]

They maybe able to sleep in it like sims can sleep in the sarcophicus from world adventures.[/quote]

but can sims die in it is sp and aging is off, nd you are in ue own game, likr you have nothing to do with it?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779059.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779059.page GMT
They can woohoo in it. [/quote]

so yes? [/quote]

They maybe able to sleep in it like sims can sleep in the sarcophicus from world adventures.[/quote]

but can sims die in it is sp and aging is off, nd you are in ue own game, likr you have nothing to do with it?[/quote]

Most likely with story progression off they won't but if it's on they may.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779262.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779262.page GMT I get so sick and tired of rude people coming on here and attacking others. [/quote]

Same I haven't forgot about the one that attacked me a couple of weeks ago. Glad she was banned.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779290.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779290.page GMT I get so sick and tired of rude people coming on here and attacking others. [/quote]

Same I haven't forgot about the one that attacked me a couple of weeks ago. Glad she was banned.[/quote]

Good, I'm glad that troll was banned. I read about what she did on The Mare's Nest. I'm sorry that happened, CLP. I think you're a great guy. Lots 'o people love ya!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779412.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779412.page GMT I get so sick and tired of rude people coming on here and attacking others. [/quote]

Same I haven't forgot about the one that attacked me a couple of weeks ago. Glad she was banned.[/quote]

Good, I'm glad that troll was banned. I read about what she did on The Mare's Nest. I'm sorry that happened, CLP. I think you're a great guy. Lots 'o people love ya![/quote]

Thank you. I didn't know it made the Mare's Nest. They still call me sharkloverplayer on there. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779484.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779484.page GMT
http://themaresnest.wordpress.com/page/2/

TMN royally chewed her out for her bevahior. She got what she deserved.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779602.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7779602.page GMT
http://themaresnest.wordpress.com/page/2/

TMN royally chewed her out for her bevahior. She got what she deserved.[/quote]

Yes they seemed to have taken my side. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780059.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780059.page GMT [/quote]

They were right in doing so! As a lot of people have said, including TMN, you're nothing but nice to the people here on the forums. I have yet to see TMN point out anyone falsely. They stick up for people when they deserve it and they point out people for being "bumnuggets", as they would say, when they definitely deserve it. As you can probably tell, I've read a lot of their articles. They may be a gossip blog, but they've admitted to being a gossip blog, and when they take screen shots of everything, it's hard to deny your behavior. Anyway, I'm sorry if I've gotten off topic.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780109.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780109.page GMT
But I also thought that I read somewhere that once you unlock the rewards, they are available to use in any game you play. I don't think you have to continue to unlock them over and over.
[/quote]

Even *if* SimPort support is discontinued at any point in time, SimPort does not make up the entire expansion. Even with SimPort being included in a patch and with the possibility of it being included in future expansion packs, if the SimPort servers go down, it'll be just like playing TS3 before this SimPort nonsense came about: by yourself. It'll just be pretty crummy that we had to go through the SimPort shenanigans only to have it discontinued at a later date *if* that ever happens.

Now if EA released an expansion pack or stand alone Sims game that based off of SimPort entirely and *then* they discontinued support for it in the future, yeah, I could see that being a problem.[/quote]

I never said that Simport made up the whole game, I was just pointing out that was one of the few things she said in her post that was pretty factual as opposed to an opinion.

As to whether or not one felt they got their money's worth if they couldn't unlock the simport rewards because it was not available, well, that will be a matter of opinion also.

And btw, the social features shown in that new video are in the patch. Simport only comes (at least at this time) with the Showtime EP.
]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780893.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780893.page GMT

As to whether or not one felt they got their money's worth if they couldn't unlock the simport rewards because it was not available, well, that will be a matter of opinion also.

And btw, the social features shown in that new video are in the patch. Simport only comes (at least at this time) with the Showtime EP.
[/quote]

And I never said that you had said SimPort made up most of the expansion. I'm not attacking you or trying to put words in your mouth, HappySimmer, I'm just stating my opinions in general. All of this is a matter of opinion, but the point I was making to n00biityo is the way she presents her opinions to others.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780931.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780931.page GMT

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780979.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780979.page GMT [/quote]

Ya sure, ya sure? No worries on my end, either. I like ya, I just don't want you to think I'm attacking you, lol. I know I can sound snarky sometimes.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780998.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7780998.page GMT [/quote]

They were right in doing so! As a lot of people have said, including TMN, you're nothing but nice to the people here on the forums. I have yet to see TMN point out anyone falsely. They stick up for people when they deserve it and they point out people for being "bumnuggets", as they would say, when they definitely deserve it. As you can probably tell, I've read a lot of their articles. They may be a gossip blog, but they've admitted to being a gossip blog, and when they take screen shots of everything, it's hard to deny your behavior. Anyway, I'm sorry if I've gotten off topic.[/quote]

It's nice to know that a blog can be admired for maliciously sliming people all over the place, yet be too cowardly to allow comments so that those whom they are sliming can't defend themselves against the slime, isn't it?

Hiya MN "Ladies"...(cheerful wave) OK, sorry, could not resist. Back on Topic.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7781135.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7781135.page GMT [/quote]

They were right in doing so! As a lot of people have said, including TMN, you're nothing but nice to the people here on the forums. I have yet to see TMN point out anyone falsely. They stick up for people when they deserve it and they point out people for being "bumnuggets", as they would say, when they definitely deserve it. As you can probably tell, I've read a lot of their articles. They may be a gossip blog, but they've admitted to being a gossip blog, and when they take screen shots of everything, it's hard to deny your behavior. Anyway, I'm sorry if I've gotten off topic.[/quote]

It's nice to know that a blog can be admired for maliciously sliming people all over the place, yet be too cowardly to allow comments so that those whom they are sliming can't defend themselves against the slime, isn't it?

Hiya MN "Ladies"...(cheerful wave) OK, sorry, could not resist. Back on Topic.[/quote]

A lot of people here from the forums read TMN. A lot of people will keep reading TMN. TMN posts more than just gossip, too. If you don't like it, keep your mouth closed. If you're not going to be polite to me in regards of what I like to read, or in regards of anything I like to do, keep your mouth closed. I don't want to hear your negativity and you're only giving TMN more fuel to write another article on you the more you comment about them. You would think this would be something learned by now seeing as they had written a few more articles about you mid-to-late January. It's like you thrive off of the drama. You even "couldn't resist" sarcastically waving to them and saying hello. I respect your opinions about The Sims series, because you can make really good ones at times, but I don't respect you as a person. I know I can be a right snot sometimes, but Jarsie, you're like that most of the time.

Those people were "maliciously slimed" because they deserved it. Like I said, when TMN posts [b]screen shots[/b] of peoples' behavior and the responses they get for it, it's hard for someone to deny their behavior if they're being called out for acting like troll. As for them not allowing comments, it's their website, they'll allow comments whether they like it or not. Want to defend yourself? Make your own blog or post your own blog response on your Sim Page. Better yet, don't act like a troll in the first place and you won't get called out on it. Just because TMN makes articles about people doesn't mean that other people aren't thinking and saying it, too. TMN just makes their opinions public.

I probably shouldn't have even responded to you in the first place, Jarsie, considering you made that post to get a rise out of me, or anyone else, in the first place... but I'm tired of holding my tongue with you. Better yet, I'm just not going to respond to you at all, anymore, unless it's in regards to The Sims. Even if your next post bothers me, I'm not going to give you anymore "fifteen minutes of fame."

So throw your sticks and your stones. Throw your bombs and your blows. But you're not gonna break my soul. A little Katy Perry for ya.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7781308.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7781308.page GMT
A lot of people here from the forums read TMN. A lot of people will keep reading TMN. TMN posts more than just gossip, too. If you don't like it, keep your mouth closed. If you're not going to be polite to me in regards of what I like to read, or in regards of anything I like to do, keep your mouth closed. I don't want to hear your negativity and[u][b] you're only giving TMN more fuel to write another article on you the more you comment about them. You would think this would be something learned by now seeing as they had written a few more articles about you mid-to-late January.[/b][/u] It's like you thrive off of the drama. You even "couldn't resist" sarcastically waving to them and saying hello. I respect your opinions about The Sims series, because you can make really good ones at times, but I don't respect you as a person. I know I can be a right snot sometimes, but Jarsie, you're like that most of the time. [/quote]

You know what? If TMN wants to waste their time writing about me, well more power to them. I don't read their blog, period, end of story. Furthermore, I don't click on any links that have their name on it. How's that for thriving on drama.

And, FYI...the reason I waved to the "Ladies"? They were nice enough to give me Simpoints and an award for whatever category they put me in for 2011...and not being entirely stupid, I accepted the Simpoints...and the little vase that came with it.

So, actually, don't care what you OR TMN think of me...because they're the ones creating the drama and all the buzz about me. I'm still not going to read their blog. I'm much happier that way, and as far as I'm concerned, ignorance is bliss.

Now to the OP, apologies for the derailment. Won't happen again.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7781624.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7781624.page GMT Don't mind me. I'll just patiently wait to hear all of your opinions. On Showtime, that is ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7785022.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7785022.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7788593.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7788593.page GMT
I decided that whether an anti-social mod comes out or not, I'm not getting this EP unless there's a 60% off sale and I just so happen to have excess money to waste at the same time (not bloody likely ), I get a free copy from someone (even less likely), or I rob Gamestop at gunpoint (hrmm.... )

I decided that EA no longer cares about ANYTHING except the next decimal place and their daggone status records on Facebook & Twitter. They don't even care if we the customer hates their guts and already said we don't want simport or any social facebook spam irrelevance. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789434.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789434.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789531.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789531.page GMT ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789563.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789563.page GMT
Why not make it possible for people to unlock some of the stuff alone and some through Simport.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789652.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789652.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789842.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7789842.page GMT
I can barely understand what you're saying. If you send a magician to another game with Simport, they can only die if the box of danger trick goes wrong. They will become a ghost, finish the show and return to your game. They will be alive when they return and they will have a special moodlet because of wha happened.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790015.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790015.page GMT
I can barely understand what you're saying. If you send a magician to another game with Simport, they can only die if the box of danger trick goes wrong. They will become a ghost, finish the show and return to your game. They will be alive when they return and they will have a special moodlet because of wha happened.[/quote]

say your story progression is off, you take a sim to see a show, a magic show, will the box of mystery be there, and can a sim die in it. not your sims, just a random sim]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790071.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790071.page GMT
I think they probably can. Sims can die of drowning, hunger, thirst, old age, and every other way to die around town! But for any of this to happen, Story Progression must be on!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790082.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790082.page GMT
I think they probably can. Sims can die of drowning, hunger, thirst, old age, and every other way to die around town! But for any of this to happen, Story Progression must be on![/quote]

so they cant die unless sp is on?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790163.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790163.page GMT
I think they probably can. Sims can die of drowning, hunger, thirst, old age, and every other way to die around town! But for any of this to happen, Story Progression must be on![/quote]

aha! *facepalm* Everything is SP. Story progression, Simport, Simpoints, Stuff Pack.... At some point I just can't tell anymore which is which.

It's pure speculation on my part but I think you're right. I play with story progression off 99% of the time do can sims be assigned professions? I honestly never noticed this.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790246.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790246.page GMT
So, if your world that you're playing in is pre-populated, then no matter what, nearly every Sim will have a career.
But you'll need Story Progression on once every Sim has been created and assigned a job if you want more Sims in a job. So, if you want more magicians to spawn, then turn on Story Progression!

Since Starlight Shores is the ST world, you can definitely count on the possibility that a noticeably higher amount of Sims in this world may be already starting out in one of the 3 new professions, since the creators wanted you to have a world full of other performing Sims if you choose not to play that way! Same thing with Twinbrook!

So, in this instance, one of the Sims who already live in Starlight Shores may die if they are in the Magician profession. And this is more likely to happen since Sims are already assigned the new profession careers.

But don't go freaking out, that your neighbors are going to die all the time! I'm sure that they will make the dying in the Box of Danger a rare event, unless you're WAY too low in your career progress. And to prevent THAT from happening, I bet that Sims around town won't automatically attempt to do one of the dangerous stunts if there isn't a very high chance of them surviving. That would be a stupid move if they allowed this to happen!]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790495.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790495.page GMT



So, in this instance, one of the Sims who already live in Starlight Shores may die if they are in the Magician profession. And this is more likely to happen since Sims are already assigned the new profession careers.

so with SP off, they can still die?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790564.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790564.page GMT
@kristenwoods: I'm pretty sure that the chance of them dying is rather small. I wouldn't worry much about it.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790653.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790653.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790765.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790765.page GMT http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790798.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7790798.page GMT

This is a good strategy. I was thinking along similar lines; that I might get it but wait to see if the forum blows up first. But waiting until close to release date is a good idea because it will be easier to return it. 8)
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I'm disappointed again that kids can't play instruments yet, or did I miss that part? Doubtful.. I'm not happy with the game. It seems to be lacking a Sims feel to me, and just trying to be like the Sims Social with the features. I don't know about you, but I don't enjoy the thought of Sims being a multiplayer game. I find it pointless.

But yeah.. not meaning to argue with anyone.. just wanted to say that I think it's a disappointing Expansion so far, but I'll wait for the reviews. Maybe they hid the good stuff.

Kinda wish they'd put grand staircases in this one. Seems fitting to me.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7793425.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7793425.page GMT
I'm so glad someone said that..cause that would become annoying quick. Plus fruit props just..aren't my thing.

Thanks for posting - hope you make up your mind soon :3]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7832717.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/502668/7832717.page GMT