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<![CDATA[Latest posts for the topic "Why?"]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/561.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net all Why? Comments? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501384.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501384.page GMT Re:Why?
I can't wait to build daycares, candy and ice cream shops, arcades, kids' hangouts, playgrounds, wedding venues, themed adult clubs, and so much more. There is so much that I can do with this theme.

Yes it may not be for everyone. But then, not all stuff packs are. I hated fast lane. I don't care much for the Diesel one. But this one, I love it.

We all have different tastes. This appeals to me. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501495.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501495.page GMT Re:Why?
They can't always make expansion and stuff packs that everyone is going to love. I disliked the some of the stuff packs in the past and i'm not complaining about it. I just didn't buy it. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501629.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501629.page GMT Why?
The point is the same as every other SP: to add more stuff to the game. Whether you like the style is up to you. I like it.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501643.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501643.page GMT Why? Comments? [/quote]

It all depends on your taste on content. I personally don't like it and it is ridiculous and useless to but other people like it have plans for it. As I said all about taste. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501830.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501830.page GMT Re:Why? http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501841.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8501841.page GMT Why? LOL]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8522839.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8522839.page GMT Why? Comments? [/quote]

It was confirmed by the gurus that KPST was not really a SP but a Promotional Pack to promote KP and it was endorsed by her for the increased price.

Diesel SP is what was really supposed to be the SP6 following EP6 (Showtime) but they side tracked it for a couple of months to get the KPST created and out for sale.

At least we now know that EA had not totally lost their mind with doing KPST and hopefully, as well as KPST is not being received they won't try a promotional pack again, not that we can't be sure they won't try promotional packs again but maybe a different celeb?

I just wish they had told us it was not the real SP6 in the cycle because some people that did not really like it pre-ordered it because they collect all the EP's and SP's and now wish they had the money for Diesel. If they do this again they should let people know up front its a promotion pack and then people will know that there is a "real" stuff pack coming along.

As someone who collects things sims and has all the SPs and EPs I felt bad that I was going to have to skip one but there was just no way to justify buying KPST just to register it and turn the icon from gray on my launcher. I was not even sure I would do that as I would have been embarrassed to have people see I bought it with it registered on my page so decided not to even do it for that. So I was so glad that the news came out about Diesel and what KPST really was. Now the grayed icon is a promotional pack and not a missed EP oe SP.

I don't think KP is selling herself off to EA at all, I think EA got talked into a deal they were not ever sure about and that is why KP is making money by EA charging more for the EP with her name on it and the SP. Another reason I did not want to buy it and why I did not buy the endorsed copy of Showtime was not to put money in her pocket.

She is using it to promote herself and because EA has her endorsement she gets paid. Obviously EA was not sure how well that would work and passed that cost onto the consumer. I am sure EA thought KPST would bring in lots of KP fans wanting to 'own part of her' by owning the SP but that might backfire when they realize they have to buy the base game to make it work.

It was an interesting try on EA's part, but that's the best I can say about it. WE may never see it as a free incentive to buy an EP in the future because any one that gets shipped or downloaded guarantees her royalties and if they were given away free then EA would have to pay the royalties/endorsement fee. I really hope EA rights this up to a poor idea for the future. I doubt many would buy into another promotional pack even if they liked the celeb since its basically a DVD full of selling the celeb.
]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8523782.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8523782.page GMT Re:Why? http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8523915.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8523915.page GMT Re:Why?
Promoted by who? Santa? There has to be a celebrity or company or something endorsing it for it to be a promo pack.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8523921.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8523921.page GMT Re:Why?
Promoted by who? Santa? There has to be a celebrity or company or something endorsing it for it to be a promo pack.[/quote]
Isn't Santa sorta a celebrity?

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8524288.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8524288.page GMT Why? Comments? [/quote]

It was confirmed by the gurus that KPST was not really a SP but a Promotional Pack to promote KP and it was endorsed by her for the increased price.

Diesel SP is what was really supposed to be the SP6 following EP6 (Showtime) but they side tracked it for a couple of months to get the KPST created and out for sale.

At least we now know that EA had not totally lost their mind with doing KPST and hopefully, as well as KPST is not being received they won't try a promotional pack again, not that we can't be sure they won't try promotional packs again but maybe a different celeb?

I just wish they had told us it was not the real SP6 in the cycle because some people that did not really like it pre-ordered it because they collect all the EP's and SP's and now wish they had the money for Diesel. If they do this again they should let people know up front its a promotion pack and then people will know that there is a "real" stuff pack coming along.

As someone who collects things sims and has all the SPs and EPs I felt bad that I was going to have to skip one but there was just no way to justify buying KPST just to register it and turn the icon from gray on my launcher. I was not even sure I would do that as I would have been embarrassed to have people see I bought it with it registered on my page so decided not to even do it for that. So I was so glad that the news came out about Diesel and what KPST really was. Now the grayed icon is a promotional pack and not a missed EP oe SP.

I don't think KP is selling herself off to EA at all, I think EA got talked into a deal they were not ever sure about and that is why KP is making money by EA charging more for the EP with her name on it and the SP. Another reason I did not want to buy it and why I did not buy the endorsed copy of Showtime was not to put money in her pocket.

She is using it to promote herself and because EA has her endorsement she gets paid. Obviously EA was not sure how well that would work and passed that cost onto the consumer. I am sure EA thought KPST would bring in lots of KP fans wanting to 'own part of her' by owning the SP but that might backfire when they realize they have to buy the base game to make it work.

It was an interesting try on EA's part, but that's the best I can say about it. WE may never see it as a free incentive to buy an EP in the future because any one that gets shipped or downloaded guarantees her royalties and if they were given away free then EA would have to pay the royalties/endorsement fee. I really hope EA rights this up to a poor idea for the future. I doubt many would buy into another promotional pack even if they liked the celeb since its basically a DVD full of selling the celeb.
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That si not true.
It was confirmed by the gurus that KPST is mega stuff pack.

Every branded stuff pack is promotional ( H&M, IKEA, KPST, DIESEL ).

KPST is SP6, DIESEL is SP7.

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I'm definitely one of those people who hates the idea of this pack. No way am I ever going to pay money for something so ridiculous. I think it's probably geared toward the younger sims player. But I am breathing a sigh of relief that it is not the official SP6. I, too, hate to see a grayed out icon, I'm a tiny bit OCD like that, but whatever...I'll deal. The worst part is wanting to download something and then it requires a certain SP. Unfortunately looks like it'll be happening, regardless, because I'm not sold on the Diesel stuff either. I hate English in a sims game. They don't speak English, why should there be English in it? Makes no sense. If we're gonna throw everything Maxis/Sim-like out of the game, why not just go all out and have English music, English voices etc.?

Not that I would ever go for that. I'm a traditionalist.

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8524923.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8524923.page GMT Why?
KPST is SP6, DIESEL is SP7. [/quote]

Oh. Ugh, then. But you're right. I guess I just liked IKEA and H&M. Oh well.

Sims 3 will never be Sims 2. But I guess it's not meant to be.

I wonder if EA will take what works from each sims version to create sims 4?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8524960.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8524960.page GMT Why?
KPST is SP6, DIESEL is SP7. [/quote]

Oh. Ugh, then. But you're right. I guess I just liked IKEA and H&M. Oh well.

Sims 3 will never be Sims 2. But I guess it's not meant to be.

I wonder if EA will take what works from each sims version to create sims 4?[/quote]

No they will probably take what did NOT work and throw that at us again to see how willing we will be to buy anything whatsoever Sim based]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8526451.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8526451.page GMT Why? No they will probably take what did NOT work and throw that at us again to see how willing we will be to buy anything whatsoever Sim based[/quote]
And that is going to run customers away.
I mean, it's great there are people who love sims 3 like I loved sims 1 and 2(sims 3 has a lot to like, even if, to me, it's overshadowed by a bunch of stuff I don't want), but sims 3 has really turned into a mess to me. I don't play it at all anymore and, though it has been hard, I don't buy anything relating to sims 3. I'm hoping, if sims 4 ever comes out, it takes all that was good from the old sims and make sims 4 awesome like I know it could be.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8527132.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8527132.page GMT Re:Why?

I'm definitely one of those people who hates the idea of this pack. No way am I ever going to pay money for something so ridiculous. I think it's probably geared toward the younger sims player. But I am breathing a sigh of relief that it is not the official SP6. I, too, hate to see a grayed out icon, I'm a tiny bit OCD like that, but whatever...I'll deal. The worst part is wanting to download something and then it requires a certain SP. Unfortunately looks like it'll be happening, regardless, because I'm not sold on the Diesel stuff either. I hate English in a sims game. They don't speak English, why should there be English in it? Makes no sense. If we're gonna throw everything Maxis/Sim-like out of the game, why not just go all out and have English music, English voices etc.?

Not that I would ever go for that. I'm a traditionalist.

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It's not necessarily geared towards younger sims players. I myself am 21 years old and I'm kind of excited for this stuff pack. But mostly because i'm very girly and love colorful sweet things

I also know a lot of other sim players that are older than me that are excited also.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8527732.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8527732.page GMT Why? Comments? [/quote]

I dont think the KP pack is stupid..I like it alot

I dont like the bland and boring and ordinary diesel pack though..to each his own

I do think the sims3 sucks in general as far as content and gameplay compared to Sims2]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8532493.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8532493.page GMT Re:Why?
People who like this pack may well be singing a different tune if, for example we were getting a Lady Gaga-themed monster pack or something completely alternative / grungey /gothic etc which incidentally would be right up my alley but I digress; you would be pretty upset if you felt that you were being left out just so EA can cater towards a small niche group and overcharge for the privilege so while I respect your opinions, please understand that we have extremely valid reasons for not liking this… whatever EA are calling it now and if the shoe were on the other foot you wouldn’t like to be told that your opinion is less valid than somebody else’s just because you don’t like it.

As far as I am concerned we just keep getting the same old crap time and time again. High end, luxury items so our sims can live in massive mansions and while the KP pack is different, it’s not exactly steering the game into an edgier look. I appreciate EA doesn’t make the game specifically for me or people like me but at the same time, people are understandably upset because one niche is being catered to (the young teens / people who like sickeningly sweet, cutesy stuff) at the expense of everybody else. The blow isn’t AS harsh anymore because EA seem to have backpeddled on calling it a stuff pack but the damage has been done and people aren’t going to stop being upset about the fact that something like this exists. Not to mention that putting my personal taste aside this pack still feels like a complete waste of space because EA copped out on adding actual interactive items(such as edible gumdrop trees or something) that would've gone GREAT with the theme and made it much more value for money.

(Plus as far as my tastes go; I was initially looking forward to Diesel because I thought that would be a really nice, industrial-style alternative to all the sickeningly sweet crap that has been forced upon us lately, alas it seems that EA or possibly even Diesel themselves have not put that kind of edge into the pack, at least so far. Maybe Diesel has changed since I last looked into the brand).

Sims 2 was never exactly ‘edgy’ either, but at least it tried to cater to the most amount of people possible.

This post isn’t directed at anybody in particular, but as usual I’m seeing people that say they don’t like it being ‘put in their place’ because their opinion is, apparently, wrong and that gets on my nerves. I’m not saying people who like the KP pack are wrong – not at all because everybody has different tastes (I bet a lot of people here don’t like rust, grime and skulls as much as I do

) but those of you who like it, please try to understand why the rest of us aren’t exactly jumping up and down with happiness at being able to have (IMO) tacky food shaped objects in our games when we could’ve had something much-much better that would get a vast amount of usage beyond making an ice cream parlour.

Sorry, this kind of turned into a rant post

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8540144.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8540144.page GMT Re:Why?
People who like this pack may well be singing a different tune if, for example we were getting a Lady Gaga-themed monster pack or something completely alternative / grungey /gothic etc which incidentally would be right up my alley but I digress; you would be pretty upset if you felt that you were being left out just so EA can cater towards a small niche group and overcharge for the privilege so while I respect your opinions, please understand that we have extremely valid reasons for not liking this… whatever EA are calling it now and if the shoe were on the other foot you wouldn’t like to be told that your opinion is less valid than somebody else’s just because you don’t like it.

As far as I am concerned we just keep getting the same old crap time and time again. High end, luxury items so our sims can live in massive mansions and while the KP pack is different, it’s not exactly steering the game into an edgier look. I appreciate EA doesn’t make the game specifically for me or people like me but at the same time, people are understandably upset because one niche is being catered to (the young teens / people who like sickeningly sweet, cutesy stuff) at the expense of everybody else. The blow isn’t AS harsh anymore because EA seem to have backpeddled on calling it a stuff pack but the damage has been done and people aren’t going to stop being upset about the fact that something like this exists. Not to mention that putting my personal taste aside this pack still feels like a complete waste of space because EA copped out on adding actual interactive items(such as edible gumdrop trees or something) that would've gone GREAT with the theme and made it much more value for money.

(Plus as far as my tastes go; I was initially looking forward to Diesel because I thought that would be a really nice, industrial-style alternative to all the sickeningly sweet crap that has been forced upon us lately, alas it seems that EA or possibly even Diesel themselves have not put that kind of edge into the pack, at least so far. Maybe Diesel has changed since I last looked into the brand).

Sims 2 was never exactly ‘edgy’ either, but at least it tried to cater to the most amount of people possible.

This post isn’t directed at anybody in particular, but as usual I’m seeing people that say they don’t like it being ‘put in their place’ because their opinion is, apparently, wrong and that gets on my nerves. I’m not saying people who like the KP pack are wrong – not at all because everybody has different tastes (I bet a lot of people here don’t like rust, grime and skulls as much as I do

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Couldn't of said it better myself.

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8540207.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8540207.page GMT Re:Why? http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8544676.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8544676.page GMT Re:Why? http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546074.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546074.page GMT Re:Why?
Ppl who are fans of Katy Perry are going to like it, that's just for a start. Those who like the diverse are going to like it too. It doesn't make ppl dumb. It just makes the different than I am.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546176.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546176.page GMT Re:Why?
Promoted by who? Santa? There has to be a celebrity or company or something endorsing it for it to be a promo pack.[/quote]
Isn't Santa sorta a celebrity?

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Santa probably would not charge extra or if he did maybe the extra EA could donate to a charity for kids. I doubt that Santa would charge to have his face on the box or to pay for having a promo pack made by having EA charge the consumer for those costs.

No one owns the rights to Santa so there is no one to pay if they get a Santa to endorse the pack. Santa is pretty well out there and does not need a 'promotion' to get 'famous' so he is not likely to want EA to build a pack around him to promote him to the world and then expect all the little kids to pay for that promotion.

CLP has wanted a holiday pack like they did for TS3 where they finally marketed the pack they gave away free two years earlier for those that did not have it. I was mostly made up of the free holiday stuff that was given out (if you remember they took the holiday stuff down each year after the holidays were over) with a few additional objects in it. They could do the same thing, maybe through the store and put all the holiday stuff no long around in it - like the Santa hats and such, as well as the newer stuff that is still around, then add a few things and sell it as a pack for the holidays - as an extra pack but I don't think it would be a promo. It was a nice pack with all the holiday stuff in it but at the time it was sort of limited to those that celebrated the holidays that were included. Maybe they could do something like that again between their winter stuff pack and spring one.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546305.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546305.page GMT Re:Why?
You're dumb!
you have no right to insult people for liking something that you don't.

Wow the stupidity of people these days never fail to surprise me.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546316.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546316.page GMT Re:Why?
Dude calm down. If you don't like it I understand cause I don't like it either but the insulting people is a bit much. Anyway Darkslayer your comment is made of epic win and is the most logical way I have yet to see as to why people (some) don't like it.

[quote=catloverplayer]I think everyone needs to give the upcoming chat a chance before you dismiss this sp. You might change your minds since this chat is suppose to show everything.[/quote]

Even though I hate this pack with a passion just from what I have seen already because all it is is a pack full of candy that (to me) won't really go with anything.Some people will give it a chance, but to be honest I think the chat will just turn this forum into a battle field again.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546603.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546603.page GMT Re:Why?
No Picklesim I'm not dumb I'm actually very smart and have a great paying career. By the way name calling can get you banned on this site. I'm thinking of reporting you. If you think I'm dumb then you must think all the other people who want this are dumb as well and none of us are. Your oviously wrong as you normally are but whatever.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546763.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546763.page GMT Re:Why?
Ppl who are fans of Katy Perry are going to like it, that's just for a start. Those who like the diverse are going to like it too. It doesn't make ppl dumb. It just makes the different than I am.[/quote]

Yes he's very wrong in his opinion of me and others.

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546769.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546769.page GMT Re:Why?
You're dumb!
you have no right to insult people for liking something that you don't.

Wow the stupidity of people these days never fail to surprise me.[/quote]

This your very accurate and hit the nail on it's head on this one.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546790.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546790.page GMT Re:Why?
You're dumb!
you have no right to insult people for liking something that you don't.

Wow the stupidity of people these days never fail to surprise me.[/quote]

This your very accurate and hit the nail on it's head on this one.[/quote]

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546827.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546827.page GMT Re:Why?
You don't understand then you must not read these forums. Lots of builders can use this stuff.

Let me educate you.

Candy themed wedding lots,nightclubs,honeymoon suites,can be used for the daycare profession in generations,a santa factory,a candy themed consignment shop,an ice cream parlor I can go on and on but if you were actually reading these forums you would understand how people would like this. Building doesn't sound dumb to me.

Sorry but you need to think before you call me and other people dumb for liking this pack. Your going to have to come up with something better then that.

Your dealing with a very smart guy right here. I didn't get to were I am in life by being dumb. I'm not going to stoop to your level and name call you because I don't want to get banned on this site.

A lot of us dumb people your talking about are very succesful and not dumb at all. That shows me how very wrong you are.

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546843.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8546843.page GMT Why? http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8547683.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8547683.page GMT Re:Why?
You're out of line with this post and quite frankly I think you owe an apology to each and every person on this thread who likes the pack for calling them dumb. I hate this pack too but that doesn't mean that I think the people who do like it are idiots - I would never think like that and neither should you because everybody has different tastes.

Seriously, you should apologise.

[quote=catloverplayer]I think everyone needs to give the upcoming chat a chance before you dismiss this sp. You might change your minds since this chat is suppose to show everything.[/quote]

You're a nice person but I think you should stop trying to beat the dead horse. As I said before this pack is very niche, it's like the Marmite of the TS3 world - you either absolutely love it, or you loathe it with a passion and want to kill it with fire and with that being the case you just aren't going to convince some people (including me) that this pack is worth my time.

Unless the chat is going to reveal that this pack was one big joke and that they're coming out with a gritty, industrial-style special pack instead absolutely nothing is going to change my mind on this. The items are unusable to me and on top of that EA had teh cheek to expect £15 more for this pack than normal so no, even if I did happen to like this pack they still wouldn't get my money on the principal that I think the pack is a complete, 100% rip off and no amount of public pandering is going to change my mind.

Besides the last chat was crap because they filtered out most of the legitimate questions, I've got a feeling this is going to be crap too. I'll just keep watching the kitties on Kitten Cam.

Edit: The only reason I'm still here is because while I don't want the pack, I'm interested to see if EA ever make this thing worth the extortionate price they're asking for because I have concerns that this pack is going to set a president for future packs to come and the last thing I want is to see £25 'not!Stuff Packs' become the norm.

Considering EA are so intent on referring to lots you can already make in game as 'venus' and counting in recolours and patterns as individual items I think they're trying to seriously cover up the fact that this pack probably only has about 5-10 more ACTUAL items than the average stuff pack yet is over twice the price (£10 vs £25. Expansions costing £30).

Like how they're not even calling it a stuff pack any more. Does it come with new interactions? No? Well then, it's a STUFF PACK no matter what EA want to pretend it is.

Sorry, I'm ranting again ^_^;]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8549435.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8549435.page GMT Why?
I'm still not going to try to understand how you will use this stuff because I don't care. I don't understand how candy themed wedding lots, day cares, consignment shops, etc. can be appealing to people.

I feel like some things in this pack could be usable, but not very many, so I don't understand how people can be in love with this promo pack, unless you are a 13 year old girl. *Note: The last sentence was not meant to insult you*

EDIT: I'm not dumb either so people that think I am are wrong as well

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8550906.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8550906.page GMT Why?
I'm still not going to try to understand how you will use this stuff because I don't care. I don't understand how candy themed wedding lots, day cares, consignment shops, etc. can be appealing to people.

I feel like some things in this pack could be usable, but not very many, so I don't understand how people can be in love with this promo pack, unless you are a 13 year old girl. *Note: The last sentence was not meant to insult you*

EDIT: I'm not dumb either so people that think I am are wrong as well

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Well I'm not a 13 year old. So you're very wrong with that statement.
Most the people buying this pack is not even close to that age. I can see why this pack appeals more to girls than guys, but age has nothing to do with it.

Well the only reason anyone would think you're dumb is for thinking It's ok to insult people for liking something you don't.

If you don't like it then don't buy it. Simple as that! No need to complain and whine about and even insult people.
That's just really immature in my opinion. But whatever. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8551046.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8551046.page GMT Re:Why?
I can't wait to build daycares, candy and ice cream shops, arcades, kids' hangouts, playgrounds, wedding venues, themed adult clubs, and so much more. There is so much that I can do with this theme.

Yes it may not be for everyone. But then, not all stuff packs are. I hated fast lane. I don't care much for the Diesel one. But this one, I love it.

We all have different tastes. This appeals to me. [/quote]

I agree with piddlesim, though I may not be getting the pack myself many sims may be liking this. Though I may try to get it, I don't know yet. I mean if you don't like it then don't get it simple as that. Besides everyone has their own opinions. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8551123.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8551123.page GMT Re:Why?

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And I do intend to buy Diesel Stuff

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8552758.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8552758.page GMT Re:Why?
Again, as stated before, this is annoying to have everyone bashing us for a pack that we don't like. I think the pack is stupid, but I don't think the people who want it are. That being said, I think EA should have probably just released this as a collection in the Sims Store (as much as I depsise the idea of that even existing) because it has a small target audience.

Even if it's been pre-ordered out the wazoo, that just means that the target audience is ready to devour this sickeningly sweet pack up, but it does not say anything, in my opinion, about its popularity in the grand scheme of Sims fans. Perhaps people who are ordering this pack are already the type to pre-order their games, and Katy Perry gushing about the pack and wanting to dye her hair all the time in the preview video makes them want to pre-order it even more. I don't know.

I have never been one to pre-order, and I have every game from Sims 1 & 2. However, 3 has me waiting for reviews before I purchase ANYTHING now. I think many of the older players are this way, as I learned my lesson with some earlier expansions that we are not to expect Sims 2 quality anymore.

Anyways, I am frustrated with this pack. With the other branded packs, though there was a limited selection of items, they definitely had appeal to everyone. Think back to H&M, that had both really 'normal' looking outfits among the crazier ones, or IKEA, that had natural colored furniture among all the crazy Swedish trends.

I just don't understand why something so targeted is getting an entire 'promotional pack' rather than just a spot in the Store.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8553906.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8553906.page GMT Re:Why? I just don't understand why something so targeted is getting an entire 'promotional pack' rather than just a spot in the Store.[/quote]

I've wondered the same thing. I can only put it down to EA wanting to capitalize on the popularity of Katy Perry while preventing their design team from actually getting creative with the theme they have been given.

Eh they're going to start feeling the pain soon if they keep on like this, with all the crap EA has been releasing for The Sims lately they're saving me about £95. I didn't buy Showtime, I'm probably not going to get the magic EP if that's really the next one, I'm certainly not getting this and the Diesel SP looks extremely lacklustre too right now. That doesn't even include all the store content I won't be buying because it's not my thing.

So yeah EA, keep up the good work! My bank balance thanks you!

]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554054.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554054.page GMT Why? Comments? [/quote]

It was confirmed by the gurus that KPST was not really a SP but a Promotional Pack to promote KP and it was endorsed by her for the increased price.

Diesel SP is what was really supposed to be the SP6 following EP6 (Showtime) but they side tracked it for a couple of months to get the KPST created and out for sale.

At least we now know that EA had not totally lost their mind with doing KPST and hopefully, as well as KPST is not being received they won't try a promotional pack again, not that we can't be sure they won't try promotional packs again but maybe a different celeb?

I just wish they had told us it was not the real SP6 in the cycle because some people that did not really like it pre-ordered it because they collect all the EP's and SP's and now wish they had the money for Diesel. If they do this again they should let people know up front its a promotion pack and then people will know that there is a "real" stuff pack coming along.

As someone who collects things sims and has all the SPs and EPs I felt bad that I was going to have to skip one but there was just no way to justify buying KPST just to register it and turn the icon from gray on my launcher. I was not even sure I would do that as I would have been embarrassed to have people see I bought it with it registered on my page so decided not to even do it for that. So I was so glad that the news came out about Diesel and what KPST really was. Now the grayed icon is a promotional pack and not a missed EP oe SP.

I don't think KP is selling herself off to EA at all, I think EA got talked into a deal they were not ever sure about and that is why KP is making money by EA charging more for the EP with her name on it and the SP. Another reason I did not want to buy it and why I did not buy the endorsed copy of Showtime was not to put money in her pocket.

She is using it to promote herself and because EA has her endorsement she gets paid. Obviously EA was not sure how well that would work and passed that cost onto the consumer. I am sure EA thought KPST would bring in lots of KP fans wanting to 'own part of her' by owning the SP but that might backfire when they realize they have to buy the base game to make it work.

It was an interesting try on EA's part, but that's the best I can say about it. WE may never see it as a free incentive to buy an EP in the future because any one that gets shipped or downloaded guarantees her royalties and if they were given away free then EA would have to pay the royalties/endorsement fee. I really hope EA rights this up to a poor idea for the future. I doubt many would buy into another promotional pack even if they liked the celeb since its basically a DVD full of selling the celeb.
[/quote]

That si not true.
It was confirmed by the gurus that KPST is mega stuff pack.

Every branded stuff pack is promotional ( H&M, IKEA, KPST, DIESEL ).

KPST is SP6, DIESEL is SP7.

[/quote]

i'd love to see a source please greenya ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554152.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554152.page GMT Re:Why?
Again, as stated before, this is annoying to have everyone bashing us for a pack that we don't like. I think the pack is stupid, but I don't think the people who want it are. That being said, I think EA should have probably just released this as a collection in the Sims Store (as much as I depsise the idea of that even existing) because it has a small target audience.

Even if it's been pre-ordered out the wazoo, that just means that the target audience is ready to devour this sickeningly sweet pack up, but it does not say anything, in my opinion, about its popularity in the grand scheme of Sims fans. Perhaps people who are ordering this pack are already the type to pre-order their games, and Katy Perry gushing about the pack and wanting to dye her hair all the time in the preview video makes them want to pre-order it even more. I don't know.

I have never been one to pre-order, and I have every game from Sims 1 & 2. However, 3 has me waiting for reviews before I purchase ANYTHING now. I think many of the older players are this way, as I learned my lesson with some earlier expansions that we are not to expect Sims 2 quality anymore.

Anyways, I am frustrated with this pack. With the other branded packs, though there was a limited selection of items, they definitely had appeal to everyone. Think back to H&M, that had both really 'normal' looking outfits among the crazier ones, or IKEA, that had natural colored furniture among all the crazy Swedish trends.

I just don't understand why something so targeted is getting an entire 'promotional pack' rather than just a spot in the Store.[/quote]

Maybe the store has something else planned. I mean they did just release an icecream maker that will work great with this set.

I wouildn't put it past the store to release a companion set to this stuff pack as they did with Showtime. June 7th new sets are out the same week as the Katy Perry Sweet Treats Stuff Pack.

Heck they may even release a Candyfornia World. They only announced Lunar Lakes 2 weeks before it was released so they could do the same with a Candyfornia World.

I'm just guessing though. I don't know this to be fact. A set could target appliences and the bathroom that were left out of the stuff pack so you could see a candy theme fridge or shower. Again I'm just guessing and most likely this won't even happen but they did it with Showtime released new outfits for the new careers.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554340.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554340.page GMT Re:Why? http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554353.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554353.page GMT Re:Why? Maybe the store has something else planned. I mean they did just release an icecream maker that will work great with this set.

I wouildn't put it past the store to release a companion set to this stuff pack as they did with Showtime. June 7th new sets are out the same week as the Katy Perry Sweet Treats Stuff Pack.

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See, but I'm confused as to why this entire pack isn't just a multi-set kind of thing in the Store. Think of different types of sets we've seen in the store - Medieval, Magic, etc. They're the type of things where they were those strange eclectic items EA used to throw into each Sims 2 expansion (Think back to Freetime, where they just threw in some random themed sets full of junkyard-looking outdated objects). Some people might use them, but for others, in comparison to everything else in the Buy catalog, why not pick something else? See, EA used to throw in the niche objects among the mass appeal to make everyone happy. I don't think that's the case anymore, and it disappoints me.

Now don't get me wrong - I think the Candy theme could make a darling children's bedroom, or like you said, a Candy shop. Throw this all in with Ambitions or something, and it's stellar. People like myself that won't use it for much can be satisfied with what else is on the pack, and those who love it can make their own Candyfornia as you put it.

I might sound like I'm complaining (and I kind of am), but to me, this is the icing on the cake to what has been an increased unhappiness with what EA is sending our way for Sims 3. I feel like now that EA is trying to make money off of Katy Perry's 'brand', I'm stuck with furniture that will make my home seem like a creepy version of Hansel and Gretel.

You might be wondering why a lot of us are bitter over a sweet little candy promotional pack (get the pun?!), and I understand. But we're wondering if this is a new trend - of targeting only select audiences, and then leaving the rest of us out. I mean, with Showtime, they tried to target the Sims 1 crowd, but left us completely hanging with how empty the expansion was. I feel disappointed lately. This isn't doing anything to make me look forward to new releases.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554812.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554812.page GMT Re:Why?
I have to admit though that I do like Katy Perry's picture on the coverart but yes I would buy this if it was only a store set.

I think this is the last Katy Perry set we will be seeing. I doubt we'll see any other promotional packs in the sims 3 maybe the sims 4.

The one I'm hoping to see released is the party stuff pack that was mentioned in a poll. That's the one I want as it's suppose to be like the sims 2 celebration stuff pack. I'm not too excited about the upcoming Diesal Stuff Pack.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554873.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8554873.page GMT Why? Comments? [/quote]

It was confirmed by the gurus that KPST was not really a SP but a Promotional Pack to promote KP and it was endorsed by her for the increased price.

Diesel SP is what was really supposed to be the SP6 following EP6 (Showtime) but they side tracked it for a couple of months to get the KPST created and out for sale.

At least we now know that EA had not totally lost their mind with doing KPST and hopefully, as well as KPST is not being received they won't try a promotional pack again, not that we can't be sure they won't try promotional packs again but maybe a different celeb?

I just wish they had told us it was not the real SP6 in the cycle because some people that did not really like it pre-ordered it because they collect all the EP's and SP's and now wish they had the money for Diesel. If they do this again they should let people know up front its a promotion pack and then people will know that there is a "real" stuff pack coming along.

As someone who collects things sims and has all the SPs and EPs I felt bad that I was going to have to skip one but there was just no way to justify buying KPST just to register it and turn the icon from gray on my launcher. I was not even sure I would do that as I would have been embarrassed to have people see I bought it with it registered on my page so decided not to even do it for that. So I was so glad that the news came out about Diesel and what KPST really was. Now the grayed icon is a promotional pack and not a missed EP oe SP.

I don't think KP is selling herself off to EA at all, I think EA got talked into a deal they were not ever sure about and that is why KP is making money by EA charging more for the EP with her name on it and the SP. Another reason I did not want to buy it and why I did not buy the endorsed copy of Showtime was not to put money in her pocket.

She is using it to promote herself and because EA has her endorsement she gets paid. Obviously EA was not sure how well that would work and passed that cost onto the consumer. I am sure EA thought KPST would bring in lots of KP fans wanting to 'own part of her' by owning the SP but that might backfire when they realize they have to buy the base game to make it work.

It was an interesting try on EA's part, but that's the best I can say about it. WE may never see it as a free incentive to buy an EP in the future because any one that gets shipped or downloaded guarantees her royalties and if they were given away free then EA would have to pay the royalties/endorsement fee. I really hope EA rights this up to a poor idea for the future. I doubt many would buy into another promotional pack even if they liked the celeb since its basically a DVD full of selling the celeb.
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That si not true.
It was confirmed by the gurus that KPST is mega stuff pack.

Every branded stuff pack is promotional ( H&M, IKEA, KPST, DIESEL ).

KPST is SP6, DIESEL is SP7.

[/quote]

i'd love to see a source please greenya [/quote]

I have seen both of these statements on the forums and they have both said "simsguru(insertnamehere) said it is,was,etc a mega stuff pack or promotioanal." Hopefully this will be answered on the 24 when(IF)someone asks. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8555050.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8555050.page GMT Why? Comments? [/quote]

It was confirmed by the gurus that KPST was not really a SP but a Promotional Pack to promote KP and it was endorsed by her for the increased price.

Diesel SP is what was really supposed to be the SP6 following EP6 (Showtime) but they side tracked it for a couple of months to get the KPST created and out for sale.

At least we now know that EA had not totally lost their mind with doing KPST and hopefully, as well as KPST is not being received they won't try a promotional pack again, not that we can't be sure they won't try promotional packs again but maybe a different celeb?

I just wish they had told us it was not the real SP6 in the cycle because some people that did not really like it pre-ordered it because they collect all the EP's and SP's and now wish they had the money for Diesel. If they do this again they should let people know up front its a promotion pack and then people will know that there is a "real" stuff pack coming along.

As someone who collects things sims and has all the SPs and EPs I felt bad that I was going to have to skip one but there was just no way to justify buying KPST just to register it and turn the icon from gray on my launcher. I was not even sure I would do that as I would have been embarrassed to have people see I bought it with it registered on my page so decided not to even do it for that. So I was so glad that the news came out about Diesel and what KPST really was. Now the grayed icon is a promotional pack and not a missed EP oe SP.

I don't think KP is selling herself off to EA at all, I think EA got talked into a deal they were not ever sure about and that is why KP is making money by EA charging more for the EP with her name on it and the SP. Another reason I did not want to buy it and why I did not buy the endorsed copy of Showtime was not to put money in her pocket.

She is using it to promote herself and because EA has her endorsement she gets paid. Obviously EA was not sure how well that would work and passed that cost onto the consumer. I am sure EA thought KPST would bring in lots of KP fans wanting to 'own part of her' by owning the SP but that might backfire when they realize they have to buy the base game to make it work.

It was an interesting try on EA's part, but that's the best I can say about it. WE may never see it as a free incentive to buy an EP in the future because any one that gets shipped or downloaded guarantees her royalties and if they were given away free then EA would have to pay the royalties/endorsement fee. I really hope EA rights this up to a poor idea for the future. I doubt many would buy into another promotional pack even if they liked the celeb since its basically a DVD full of selling the celeb.
[/quote]

That si not true.
It was confirmed by the gurus that KPST is mega stuff pack.

Every branded stuff pack is promotional ( H&M, IKEA, KPST, DIESEL ).

KPST is SP6, DIESEL is SP7.

[/quote]

i'd love to see a source please greenya [/quote]

I have seen both of these statements on the forums and they have both said "simsguru(insertnamehere) said it is,was,etc a mega stuff pack or promotioanal." Hopefully this will be answered on the 24 when(IF)someone asks. [/quote]

I've seen SimguruJenn say the price was because it was a mega stuff pack, way back when it was first announced. The rest I haven't seen.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8555133.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8555133.page GMT Why?
http://www.thesims3.com/game/sp6 (Link to KP)

http://www.thesims3.com/game/sp7 (Links to Diesel)

In the first chat Jennifer Lane said KP was a mega stuff pack.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8555547.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8555547.page GMT Re:Why?
Again, as stated before, this is annoying to have everyone bashing us for a pack that we don't like. I think the pack is stupid, but I don't think the people who want it are. That being said, I think EA should have probably just released this as a collection in the Sims Store (as much as I depsise the idea of that even existing) because it has a small target audience.

Even if it's been pre-ordered out the wazoo, that just means that the target audience is ready to devour this sickeningly sweet pack up, but it does not say anything, in my opinion, about its popularity in the grand scheme of Sims fans. Perhaps people who are ordering this pack are already the type to pre-order their games, and Katy Perry gushing about the pack and wanting to dye her hair all the time in the preview video makes them want to pre-order it even more. I don't know.

I have never been one to pre-order, and I have every game from Sims 1 & 2. However, 3 has me waiting for reviews before I purchase ANYTHING now. I think many of the older players are this way, as I learned my lesson with some earlier expansions that we are not to expect Sims 2 quality anymore.

Anyways, I am frustrated with this pack. With the other branded packs, though there was a limited selection of items, they definitely had appeal to everyone. Think back to H&M, that had both really 'normal' looking outfits among the crazier ones, or IKEA, that had natural colored furniture among all the crazy Swedish trends.

It just doesn't compute.

Edit: EA have only started calling it a Mega Stuff Pack recently and IMO they are only doing so to try and justify the unjustifiable price hike without actually giving us a decent amount of content for our money. Yeah this pack does have more items than your typical £10 SP but when EA are also including duplicates and wallpapers in that count it just is NOT worth an extra £15. I cannot stress enough that £25 here in the UK is only £5 LESS than an expansion pack retails for! For that kind of money I would expect to have at least twice the amount of items that come in a normal SP (NOT including duplicates, wallpapers etc) or hell, less items but special items that come with interactions (like edible gumdrop trees or something). NOT simply KP's mug on the box.

It just reeks of 'we put KP on the box but YOU'RE going to pay for it.']]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8556658.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8556658.page GMT Q: Re:Why? A: $$$ ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8557051.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8557051.page GMT Why? Comments? [/quote]

If you don't like it, don't buy it. That's my only comment.

(And this looks a lot more interesting than the Diesel stuff pack. Myabe not the theme I would have picked but it's a heck of a lot more original than THAT.)]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562058.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562058.page GMT Why?
If you don't like it, don't buy it. That's my only comment.

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I'm pretty sure that no one who is complaining about this pack is going to rush out and buy it - I think we're all on the same page with this one.

But in reality, your argument, while it would be normally valid doesn't quite hold up. It makes sense to a lot of people (even those who like the idea of the SP) as to why some of us are frustrated. After the last EP was a total bust (we've been begging for a Superstar-like EP for forever, and it should have been better, not disappointing) that had Katy Perry on it, almost as if EA suspected that would be one of the few ways to sell the EP, she's back again with a SP that is really, really directed for a specific group of people.

This isn't what the Sims has ever been about. It's been about every player, and the packs leading up to this one have catered to all Sims fans, but this one doesn't. It's a definite turn in the company. The people who aren't fans of the SP aren't happy about it. And it makes sense. We want something everyone can like. Is that so much to ask, when that's what the Sims has been doing since the franchise started?]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562225.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562225.page GMT Why?
But in reality, your argument, while it would be normally valid doesn't quite hold up. It makes sense to a lot of people (even those who like the idea of the SP) as to why some of us are frustrated. After the last EP was a total bust (we've been begging for a Superstar-like EP for forever, and it should have been better, not disappointing) that had Katy Perry on it, almost as if EA suspected that would be one of the few ways to sell the EP, she's back again with a SP that is really, really directed for a specific group of people.

This isn't what the Sims has ever been about. It's been about every player, and the packs leading up to this one have catered to all Sims fans, but this one doesn't. It's a definite turn in the company. The people who aren't fans of the SP aren't happy about it. And it makes sense. We want something everyone can like. Is that so much to ask, when that's what the Sims has been doing since the franchise started?[/quote]

Um, not a single Sims game, expansion, or stuff pack has been for EVERYONE. (Boy does EA wish that was the case; they'd be the most profitable company in the world!) I don't see what's so wrong with catering to a specific niche. You get more unique products that way, the people who like it get exactly what they want, the people who don't can skip it and wait for the next one that caters to them. The alternative is a bunch or boring bland stuff that caters to the lowest common denominator. How is that better?!

(BTW you may want to check sales figures of Showtime before declaring it a "total bust." It didn't sell as well as previous EPs but EA certainly didn't take a loss on it.)]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562305.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562305.page GMT Why?
But in reality, your argument, while it would be normally valid doesn't quite hold up. It makes sense to a lot of people (even those who like the idea of the SP) as to why some of us are frustrated. After the last EP was a total bust (we've been begging for a Superstar-like EP for forever, and it should have been better, not disappointing) that had Katy Perry on it, almost as if EA suspected that would be one of the few ways to sell the EP, she's back again with a SP that is really, really directed for a specific group of people.

This isn't what the Sims has ever been about. It's been about every player, and the packs leading up to this one have catered to all Sims fans, but this one doesn't. It's a definite turn in the company. The people who aren't fans of the SP aren't happy about it. And it makes sense. We want something everyone can like. Is that so much to ask, when that's what the Sims has been doing since the franchise started?[/quote]

Um, not a single Sims game, expansion, or stuff pack has been for EVERYONE. (Boy does EA wish that was the case; they'd be the most profitable company in the world!) I don't see what's so wrong with catering to a specific niche. You get more unique products that way, the people who like it get exactly what they want, the people who don't can skip it and wait for the next one that caters to them. The alternative is a bunch or boring bland stuff that caters to the lowest common denominator. How is that better?!

(BTW you may want to check sales figures of Showtime before declaring it a "total bust." It didn't sell as well as previous EPs but EA certainly didn't take a loss on it.)[/quote]

But it still didn’t sell as well as other EPs so clearly EA did something wrong. Can you also explain to me why the expansion packs would not have had mass appeal? It was my understanding that apart from the social networking features in Showtime and the RPG-style gameplay in World Adventures that the packs have catered to quite a large demographic of people.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562401.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562401.page GMT Why? Um, not a single Sims game, expansion, or stuff pack has been for EVERYONE. (Boy does EA wish that was the case; they'd be the most profitable company in the world!) I don't see what's so wrong with catering to a specific niche. You get more unique products that way, the people who like it get exactly what they want, the people who don't can skip it and wait for the next one that caters to them. The alternative is a bunch or boring bland stuff that caters to the lowest common denominator. How is that better?!

(BTW you may want to check sales figures of Showtime before declaring it a "total bust." It didn't sell as well as previous EPs but EA certainly didn't take a loss on it.)[/quote]

Ah, but I think this is where we'll differ. When I said that the previous packs appealed to everyone, in no way did I mean that everyone would be happy with 100% of the content. However, in every pack, there has been a cutesy set, or Medieval, or something to cater to a specific group of people, among many other more 'across the board' items. Perhaps the only EP I can name that didn't cover a large group of fans would be Makin' Magic, but back then, expectations were different. And when TS2 brought magic to the table, they added it with apartments and neat furniture for those still looking for a normal experience.

I agree with you that it's fun when EA throws in some items for a specific audience, but they're now releasing a stuff pack where, if you don't like candy furniture or scantily-clad outfits with candy all over them (making them seem like they're catering to children, and therefore pretty creepy IMO), there is literally nothing for you to like on this SP. See where I'm coming from? Remember back to TS2's Teen Style stuff, where they gave us beachy, preppy and goth to cover all the extremes? That was pretty cool. But I guess those days were over.

I also don't like that whenever we complain, we are told that we must want boring, generic stuff in our games. I love the quirky stuff, but I don't like the fact that this is an entire pack. That's bogus to me. And frankly, it's a bit annoying to have my arguments steamrolled by claims that the only alternative to this Candy pack are boring SP and EPs. That's not what ANY of us have been pushing.

And finally, when I said Showtime was a bust, I was not referring to economic profits (I don't think those necessarily reflect the disappointment at all). I am not surprised that it did well, but there are plenty of instances where things sell well, but people end up upset with their purchases. I was speaking merely about the expectations that fell flat for many of us. I am certainly not the only one who feels that pack was a waste of the Superstar remake opportunity.

But alas, I don't think we're going to agree. People who are upset feel left out, and I'm not sure that the people who like this SP and can't fathom why we're speaking up about it understand why. Perhaps a pack will disappoint you too, and make you feel like the Sims is taking a direction you're not happy about (though I don't wish that on any fans). But until then, I don't think we'll ever see eye to eye.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562445.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8562445.page GMT Re:Why?
I just hope that Diesal has more then clothes and a few furniture pieces. I'd love to see Diesal include some new sunglasses and who knows maybe it wil but for now I'm excited about KPST"S.

KPST"S,Outdoor Living and Master Suites are the only stuff packs I"ve had Peps for and I have them all except KPST"S.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8563471.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8563471.page GMT Why?
I think you're being overly dramatic. If it were an expansion I'd understand, but it's a SP. If you don't like the items in it, wait a couple weeks and the Store will probably release something in a style you do like.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8563614.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8563614.page GMT Why? I think you're being overly dramatic. If it were an expansion I'd understand, but it's a SP. If you don't like the items in it, wait a couple weeks and the Store will probably release something in a style you do like.[/quote]

I don't think I'm being overly dramatic, and nor do a lot of people who don't like the pack. It's wonderful that you're pleased, really it is. However, many of us aren't, and we're tired of people acting like we're unreasonable, or as you put it, overly dramatic because we're upset.

Again, as I stated before, we aren't going to see eye to eye. I'm not alone in my thinking, nor are you. So perhaps those who love the pack should stick to the threads praising it, rather than policing the threads that are displeased with it. That kind of makes sense to me. ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8564179.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8564179.page GMT Why? I think you're being overly dramatic. If it were an expansion I'd understand, but it's a SP. If you don't like the items in it, wait a couple weeks and the Store will probably release something in a style you do like.[/quote]

I don't think I'm being overly dramatic, and nor do a lot of people who don't like the pack. It's wonderful that you're pleased, really it is. However, many of us aren't, and we're tired of people acting like we're unreasonable, or as you put it, overly dramatic because we're upset.

Again, as I stated before, we aren't going to see eye to eye. I'm not alone in my thinking, nor are you. So perhaps those who love the pack should stick to the threads praising it, rather than policing the threads that are displeased with it. That kind of makes sense to me. [/quote]

I don't think you're being overly dramatic because you don't like it. It's the "I'm not sure that the people who like this SP and can't fathom why we're speaking up about it understand why." thing I was referring to. Everyone understands, because everyone has been disappointed by something at some point.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8564606.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8564606.page GMT Why? I don't think you're being overly dramatic because you don't like it. It's the "I'm not sure that the people who like this SP and can't fathom why we're speaking up about it understand why." thing I was referring to. Everyone understands, because everyone has been disappointed by something at some point.[/quote]

Then if we all understand, why are people coming on the obviously negative threads and calling people out for not liking the game? That's kind of what's happening here, and now I'm really confused as to why, if we've all been disappointed before.

Maybe I'm being overdramatic. But isn't all of this dramatic? Going back and forth for no real reason because no one involved is going to change their mind? ]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8565344.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8565344.page GMT Re:Why?
The only celebrity I'm happy with being on the sims is Drew Carey from the first sims. D:

//sad day

What I'm mostly annoyed about is that I'm totally OCD about having every sims game... it's going to be the first grayed out expansion pack I'll have ever had.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8582706.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8582706.page GMT Why? Comments? [/quote]

She doesn't sell herself out, she has agents that do that for her =p]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8582726.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8582726.page GMT Re:Why?
The only celebrity I'm happy with being on the sims is Drew Carey from the first sims. D:

//sad day

What I'm mostly annoyed about is that I'm totally OCD about having every sims game... it's going to be the first grayed out expansion pack I'll have ever had.[/quote]

This is a stuff pack not an expansion pack. Ep 7 should be announced soon though.]]> http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8583444.page http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/preList/538428/8583444.page GMT